Biden won't do it, but a future U.S. president is going to have to bring U.S. generals to heel.

Hate to tell you this, but you really suck at it.

But hey, keep working on it, I am sure you can get it eventually

 

lolololololol movies and tv are about guns, war, and "law and order." how are these things suddenly not "conservative?"

 

Maybe if you read the response prior to my post it wouldn't be so shocking.
Just a thought

 

That would have nothing to do with what I posted. John Wayne constantly talked about how Liberals were whining. You think if he were alive today he would get a Star in Hollywood?
Look at this video and tell me how todays Liberal media would respond.

 

Except he did win the presidency in 2016 (the only people who care about the popular vote are the losers).

 

YOUR party has LOST the PV in SEVEN out of the last EIGHT elections.

So who exactly are the "LOSERS"?

 

We have nukes and we have them to USE. That's only IF the others side uses theirs first but it remains a very real POSSIBILITY. I'm old enough to have been in the school exercises where we all went out in the hallways and then assumed a semi-fetal position in the hope we wouldn't be incinerated in nuclear fire somehow if war came. For god's sake go look at the thousands of nuclear tipped ICBMs we STILL maintain at a cost of several HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars annually then pull your head out of your nether regions and face up to the naked horror of the world we STILL live in.

EMP might kill a lot of electronics but pretty far from all of them. You've never heard of a Faraday cage?

 

Maybe you but not everybody or even lots. Most people are happy to have healthcare that's free to them and government sponsored college along with bridges that don't collapse and roads without holes all through them. Are you a multi-billionaire? Because they're the only ones who have benefitted from Republican taxes

Have fun on that vacation

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/28/gar...x-savings-can-buy-a-family-a-car-kitchen.html

 

Well, because tRump has bankrupted more businesses he's been involved in than not, can't start a charity because of corruption, his buildings have unsustainable low occupancy, tRump LOST his bid for reelection AND tRump has a BIG FAT ASS made bigger by his DEPENDS.

 

I'd appreciate a link, I haven't seen that.

 

Nobody is at DEFCON 1. You can now go about your day. There isn't a Navel blockade around China and we don't have nukes to use. Its called a nuclear deterrent.
Did you buy a gun to kill someone, or did you buy it for self defense? You can stop with all the hysterics now.

Anyone on the planet knows that a nuclear attack on the US would face obliteration. literally. Not to mention even if there was a launch, everyone on the planet knows most wouldn't even get through.
It would be an effort in futility.

And a Faraday cage only works if you have one? Do you have one? lol

And yes, and EMP pulse will kill ALL electronics it reaches. Not just some of them.

 

I worked there. I had a WSA badge. Nuclear warheads and their component systems were transported to/from Ramstein by C-130s and C-141s.

You don't seem to understand that just because a C-130 is parked at Ramstein, it doesn't logically follow that it is available for your exclusive use.

You do understand there's a difference between the US Army and the US Air Farce, right?

I can't just say gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat ding and they hand it over to me to use.

Yes, there was an air base in Rome, New York that was specifically tasked with nuclear weapons mission support and they would hop over to Seneca Army Depot in Romulus, New York and fly out, but I still had to plan those at least 90 days in advance to guarantee that the Air Farce had the air assets available. That wing wasn't set aside solely for the Army. It also provide support to the Navy and Air Farce. Those guys were flying all the time.

When they Army asked for airlift support, it is possible the Air Farce had no assets available until four months out.

If that was the case, then whoever was in charge of the Balkans Botch Job should have went up the chain of command to pressure the Air Farce to get a move on it.

 

The problem isn't US, it's the OTHER GUY.

If China had gotten the idea that we were about to nuke them then they would launch on us. We would of course launch back and then the Russians would get involved since they would feel threatened etc

Carl Sagan said that we are like two men standing in a sealed room filled with gasoline up to their ankles each threatening the other with a box of matches. This is the true horror of nuclear war, Nobody wants it yet it can start quite easily ACCIDENTALLY if one side gets the idea that the other side has gone crazy.

Like if a raving lunatic was in charge and somehow got the idea that a nuclear war would perpetuate his rule through a consequent declaration of martial law, which I understand was the very plan that Mike Lindell was suggesting

A Faraday Cage, as I understand, is any sort of structure that can shield from electromagnetic waves. They are readily formed around us quite often. A car is one, which is why you are generally safe from lightning in one, though not entirely.

 

OMG lol You have convinced me that the left has lost its mind. The United States has a two-man rule in place and while only the president can order the release of nuclear weapons, the order must be verified by the secretary of defense to be an authentic order given by the president. If they both do not agree, no weapons can be launched.

Neither China, the USA, or Russia would even consider weapons release unless other birds were flying. Nobody would consider a preemptive launch because they think the other is crazy. They don't have your passion for exaggerated emotions. And there is no order a president can give that will supersede the two many rule. It would be an illegal order and would not be followed by ANYONE including Norad.

No no nooooo. lol Good God man. No car is not considered a Faraday cage or protected from an EMP. The reason you are safe in your car from lightning is because you are not grounded. The car is sitting on rubber tires. Same with planes that get hit every day.

An EMP is a momentary intense electromagnetic field that induces high voltages in electrical conductors where most of its damage is in causing electrical breakdown voltages to be exceeded. It fries the brain and or cpu.

 

Oh, so you're one of those who thinks a President can launch a nuclear strike without anyone else . Figures. lol
The Secretary of Defense has to authenticate the presidents launch order. If they don't agree, no launch can happen. Its called the two man rule if you want to look it up.

 

And that Secretary had to look up from sucking Trump's anus dry long enough to say "MAGA, Mr President, all humanity is proud to die for your miffed feelings"

Going by the logic I see here the Secy could be charged with Treason if he didn't agree with the President. To quote the wikipedia article: " The secretary of defense has no veto power and must comply with the president's order.[7"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_football

Milley saved the ****ing world from your mad god. I may vote for him in 2024

 

Wow, back in la la land I see. Any illegal order hosted by the president such as a first strike order to launch nuclear weapons, would not be confirmed by the Secretary of State. And he wouldn't be charged with treason for not complying with an illegal order. Hence why it takes two to confirm the order.

Milley isn't even in the chain of command to stop a nuclear launch. He has no military command authority and is in no way involved in the process of launching weapons or commanding anyone to do so.
With every post you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt how out of touch you are with the process of launching nuclear weapons.
But you do however speak volumes of CNN orange man bad tripe.

And all this from a guy who
Thinks by declaring marshal law, a president can launch nuclear weapons by himself
Thinks his car is a Faraday Cage
Thinks China would launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike
Thinks the Sec of State would launch nuclear warheads because he could be charged with treason if he didn't
Thinks Milley stopped a nuclear strike on China
Thinks we have nuclear weapons because we intend on using them
Thinks China was about to launch

I'll just consider the source

 

Yes, I've been saying that Milley pulled a Schlesinger and deserves a Mulligan.

 

Tell that to the 200 people who had up close contact with the president, upon whose testimonies Woodward & Costa's new book is based.

Well, if he can inspire people to attack the capital, and there is plenty of evidence in his final days in office he was erratic, explosive, it's a legitimate concern that an unstable, unhinged president has the nuke football.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/14/politics/woodward-book-trump-nuclear/index.html

"Peril" is based on more than 200 interviews with firsthand participants and witnesses, and it paints a chilling picture of Trump's final days in office. The book, Woodward's third on the Trump presidency, recounts behind-the-scenes moments of a commander in chief unhinged and explosive, yelling at senior advisers and aides as he desperately sought to cling to power.

Don't be blind.

 

I hate to blow everyones story out of the water but Trump can't launch a nuclear strike by himself no matter how much he yelled.
The Secretary of State has to confirm the order with his launch code as well. Its called the two man system.
And Milley has no command authority of any US military. He's not even involved in the process of launching nuclear weapons.
He couldn't stop it if he wanted too.

So on to the next OMG look what Trump almost did story.

 

How many times do I have to go over this? What Trump actually was going to do is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT.

What is of concern is what the Chinese THINK he is going to do because if they become totally convinced he is going to attack them then we have the ONLY time when nuclear war becomes a sane response and that is because you think you are about to be attacked and the idea is to keep the enemy from hurting you that badly by killing him first.

This IS insane but it's not really that hard to understand. Remember the room full of gasoline?

It's also, of course, why it's not a good idea to let a raving loony become President in the first place but nobody ever thought anyone would be stupid enough to do that. Looks like they didn't think of Republicans, did they?

 

No one can veto a launch order by the President, so your point is rather moot.

Your attempt to trivialize the concerns of the General ( and other generals ) aside...

Milley is not involved in the process of launching nuclear weapons. That is true.

But, Milley, as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, including the National Security Advisor and numerous officials in the National Security sectors who advise the president, should be consulted, (none of whom were on the 'memo' and who should have been, which led to this concern) especially when America is not under direct attack, especially when the president is making overtures that are erratic, incoherent, and appear to be motivated for his reelection, that he should be consulted before anyone acts on a command of the president whereupon the outcome has monumental implications for the United States, which is all that Milley wanted, to be in the loop, NOT to interfere with the process.

That is what Schlesinger did, who set that particular precedent and no one seemed to mind. That is what Milley did ( but all of the sudden it's a problem ).

Upon scrutiny, when the rubber hits the proverbial road, there is nothing unconstitutional about what Milley did.

Whine, bitch, moan, groan, pound the desk, raise hysterics to a fevered pitch, but that is the fact of the matter.

 

It's one thing to just make a statement and declare that it is a fact it is quite another thing to back it up with evidence and you can consider this statement a fact.

The fact is the president is called the Commander in Chief for a reason.

 

Not even close. Where do you guys get this erratic stuff from anyway. Without the Secretary of States confirmation, no missile can be launched.
Its always been a two man confirmation system and always will be. No one man can launch a nuclear strike but you go ahead and tell everyone different.
It only verifies you have no clue how the system actually works.
Its actually called the two man rule
For submarines its the CO and the executive officer. If they don't concur, no launch
For Norad once a launch order is received, both operators must agree that it is valid by comparing the authorization code in the order against a Sealed Authenticator
For the Commander in Chief you have the presidents launch code and the Secretary of States launch code to confirm a launch. If they don't concur, the process stops.

Sorry your Trump story feel apart but thats what happens when you just follow the leftist talking point tripe instead of actual knowledge.

Nope, just trivializing the ignorance from the left about Milley protecting the US from launching a nuclear strike when he isn't even in the process.
He doesn't even have any command authority. He is an advisor ONLY. He couldn't stop or start a launch so tell me how he was protecting us again?

He went out of the chain of command and behind his own bosses back to tell Gen Li that he would warn him is an attack was coming. Sec Miller already confirmed it.

 

Well, first off, nobody is stupid enough to think a president can launch a nuclear strike by himself. So theres that.
Wow, just the lack of common sense to even make statements like that is just bewildering in itself. Did you think once China launched it would be instantaneous? We would all just blow up 3 seconds later?
Jesus dude. Where the f*** do you even conceive of something so Ludacris? Once China or anyone else starts fueling their missiles, we know. They know we know. And they know, we know, they know.

Any surface launch of an ICBM is detected immediately. They know there is no way they can even stop a retaliatory launch. Our subs alone would render China lifeless if no missile is even launched from the US. Not to mention that Norad would clear every silo long before an ICBM could reach them. You need to stop with these fairy tales. They ain't workin for ya. lol