Bill Gates slams Texas governor's explanation for catastrophic power outages

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  1. Capt Nice

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    Wow, so much for civility. Sorry if I offended you.
     
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    Yes I did see that it was a loan guarantee. I do know of the danger of letting in the worse of the leftist anti nuke gangs and anti nuke thinkinking. The basic Democrats are not that crazy anti nuke but they inadvertently let in lefty crazies into the nuclear decision. I have had unsolicited contacts with the anti nuke crowd without giving our details I was involved with a Chornobyl relief group and I took on the "security" job of identifying and screening out the worst of the lefty and pro Soviet scum pro Russia scum who tried to offer "help". The Soviet -American Friendship Committee a Communist front group was inadvertently "invited" to one of our board meetings by a Green antinnuke group ( allied with us) who was "helping" us obtain medical supplies for Chornobyl victims. They blew up into a screaming match accusing us of being bigots when we told them that NO we are not helping Russian only Ukrainian Chornobyl victims. And told them that we do not want "help" from pro Russian or pro Soviet scum groups. We " lost" our green allies when they realized we were not playing into their game.
    Our group was made up of postvWWII Ukrainian refugees who were staunch anti Soviet anti Communists and their baby boomer hides like me. My parents age group hated Soviets, Communists and Russians.

    The Democrats fall into the mirror image of what Trumpian groups fell into. Trump has his Proud Boys White Supremacists and Democrats have their proud girls Green Supremacists.
     
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    If coming out swinging means, just flat out making up shyte, well, that isn't unusual. Gates says "you can make turbines weather protected from ice" is a true statement. It also doesn't mean that his observation is rational given that the vast majority of turbines in tx don't have de icing. So, the "could have" isn't the same as coming out swinging because it is based on a "what if" that isn't available in reality as built. It's like saying Internet Explorer could be secure. But the condition is you can't ever use it.
     
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    I bet Bill Gates has stock in the companies that make vegan-style food. There's a reason for everything and typically you can follow the money.
     
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    Bill Gates and MicroSoft need to be Standard Oiled.
     
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    The Proud Boys are clearly not "white supremacists" - they are led by a black American.
    OTOH, real white supremacist organizations almost always support any DP politician over any RP politician for reasons that should be apparent to anyone.
     
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    I know, I forgot the comma between Proud Boys , and, White Supremacists.
     
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    There are very few real "white supremacists" left in America. Nevertheless, the legacy of white supremacy is entrenched in some of our institutions. IMO, almost all Americans would choose to eliminate institutional racism if offered that choice.
     
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    I am sure that will be the theme of Trump's speech at APAC this weekend. LOL
     
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    Very unlikely.
     
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    Joking of course. Trump will continue his "big lie" of having won the election.
     
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    That reminds me of an old joke...
    The doctor tells his patient he needs to diet, exercise, stop smoking and drinking and generally change his lifestyle. "If you do all that, you could live to be 100!"
    The guy says, I might not live to 100 but it'd damn sure feel like it!
     
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    I returned what I got. I usually do.
     
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    The election was almost certainly rigged. But for that Trump would have won, but when the Electoral College voted Trump lost the only election that matters in the US. He seems to have accepted that inconvenient truth rather well.
     
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    Then, why the fear of an investigation?? Surely the cost of an investigation would be worth to settle the issue once and for all?
     
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    Solar was doing fine after a day. They tend to run hot so the kinda defrost themselves very quickly. Likewise wind turbines were running strong when the power had to be cut off.

    Texas relies largely on natural gas, and those supplies were limited. Therefore the NG power plants couldn't get started as they had no fuel.
     
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    You just made a claim. Solar was doing find day after day. And your proof of this claim is what exactly? All the published accounts of windmills freezing are fake?
     
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    Because it isn't true. Those units were approved in February 2016. Pretty sure Obama was president then.
     
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    I stole it from a climate denier blogger who was trying to claim that NG was fine and dandy.

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    As you can see, on the Monday Tuesday and Wednesday solar and wind were doing their normal job. In fact wind was overperforming on Sunday the 14th. Gas tried to ramp up for the ice storm but you can see that the hit a ceiling from Thursday to Sunday because the fuel wasn't available.
     
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    wow...if you are correct then

    steve jobs was also no visionary and neither was henry ford or thomas edison or jonas salk

    the bill gates , elon musks and jeff bezos are the modern day visionary geniuses

    along with the guys that invented round up and fertilizer and the guys that sent apollo 11 to the moon

    the PC and internet and cell phone have changed the landscape of the entire world over the last 20 years
     
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    Incidents like this include several factors. Unfortunately, focusing on a single issue often ensures that the incident occurs again because the chain can still break somewhere else.
     
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    Your graph appears to show a major decline in wind generated power from 2/8 until 2/14.
     
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    You don't know what you are talking about, but here you are talking anyways.
     
  24. MissingMayor

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    On 2/8 the entire state of Texas had 20 mph winds. It is not normal for wind energy to supply over 20 GWh in Texas. It was actually supplying half of Texas energy for a short while.
     
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    Nah... he's going to be telling the scum who backstabbed him that he's coming for them. Seriously. The Rs that helped push him down the stairs during the steal, are going to pay the price at the polls. BET ON IT. :)
     
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