Bill Murray and personal responsibility

Bill Murray is working?!

The day I get lectured by a college drop out failed drug dealer is the day I hang myself.

You know a lot of us don't have to have a coming to Jesus moment. We were already there.

Wow. Sounds real responsible. Call this random number and if I feel like it I will check the VM and return your call. Must be nice to operate like that in a weak economy where 8.3+% of people are looking for work. Just what they need. A guy like that to lecture them about personal responsibility. I'm glad your ship came in making jokes in TV and in movies.

 

I wouldnt admit that if I were you....

 

I wonder if Bill Murray realizes some of those "responsible" pioneers resorted to cannibalism in order to survive. Call me a softie but I would rather give people food stamps temporarily than have them resort to cannibalism.

 

If we don't hand out enough food stamps then there will be cannibalism? Really? That sounds outlandish to me, but I'm sure you can cite a few cases of that happening.

 

More moral superiority and judgments. Murray must be a conservative, after all.

 

I'm sorry my dislike of drug dealing offends you.

 

What does that have to do with anything?

 

You must hate a lot of your fellow Democrats in urban minority areas.

 

No they don't. This is the problem with the American right(well one of them)!! They really don't understand anything. They don't understand the issues. They don't understand the world. They don't understand liberals. So in place of that, they simplify everything down into easy to understand straw men, and spend their time arguing against those. Liberals want government to do everything(except they don't). Liberals are opposed to personal responsibility(except that they aren't). Liberals are socialists(except that they aren't). Liberals hate freedom(except that they don't). And so on and so forth. It makes debate impossible, because you spend your entire time having to respond to straw men. It is boring, and a waste of everyones time!!

 

Why? What did drug dealers ever do to you? Now I could understand if there were people out there who went around shoving drugs into peoples mouths, up their noses, injecting them with drugs, etc, and you hated those people!! That is just wrong. What reason do you have for disliking drug dealers? They provide a good to people who want that good, maybe not the nicest way to earn a living, but morally preferable to some legal jobs that exist.

 

It has to do with PERSONAL responsibility. Taking care of yourself first and then taking care of someone else. it's applies. He said it in the interview. Didja read it?

 

Like what?

 

There are very few people that I honestly "hate." I'm not like you. I am not filled with hate. I can have a good debate about the issues but that doesn't mean I'm on some personal crusade against an individual.

Unlike you just because I disagree with something someone does does not mean I dislike the person. I dislike the behavior. And I really don't need to start listing well known Republicans that have been implicated in indulging in the drug culture do I?

 

What is morally wrong with the free market working? Why do you hate the free market and liberty? Typical conservatives always opposing the free market and liberty!!

 

I dislike the behavior not necessarily the people. I am not a fan of drugs or cigerretts. I dislike people selling, buying or using drugs or cigerattes. Does it mean I want to lock everybody up that sells, buys or uses drugs or cigeratess, no? I am not a Republican. Just because something doesn't sit well with me personally doesn't mean I should send out storm troopers to lock up large swaths of the population.

Now if someone repeatedly sells something like heroin I do feel the law needs to take a hard line with them as a public safety measure... not because I dislike the guy or girl.

 

How many straw men are liberals responsible for on this forum every day? I am a fairly successful business owner. How on earth could a person build a successful business if that person knew literally nothing.

Any honest criticisms that could be made concerning the way some on the right debate here can also be made against many on the left. To pretend otherwise is silly.

Do you really think that everyone on the right knows literally nothing? I'll bet there are people on the right who have posted on this very thread who are more successful than you, have higher IQs than you, have better educations than you and so on. Yet you are going to tell us they know nothing. The fact that your post simply consists of a series of adolescent level blanket statement makes it look like you don't even know what debate is. You have made a series of stupid assertions and claimed victory just like a child might do.

If debate is impossible and attempting to engage in it is boring and a waste of time, then why are you attempting to engage in it over and over and over?

Face it, you have fallen flat on your face again with that little outburst.

 

Where exactly did I do that? My word, even in a post criticizing me for saying right wingers are always engaging in constructing straw men, there is a straw man in the post!! The fact is I haven't fallen on my face, I have accurately described the behavior of about 95% of right wingers in this country, and about 99% at this forum.


As far as the rest of your post goes, I really don't care about your personal background. It is illogical to appeal to that sort of thing, you should avoid it whenever you can. I admit I slip sometimes, when really stupid people at this forum challenge me, but I do my best to avoid that sort of thing.

 

So do you agree with Brewskier's implication that a lot of Democrats that live in cities are drug dealers?

 

Are you saying that "They really don't understand anything. They don't understand the issues. They don't understand the world." isn't a series of childish assertions? At best, you might argue that they are not childish level assertions, but rather, adolescent level assertions.

Accurate just because you say so? Are you kidding me? How about backing up your assertions with evidence, logic or better still, both. Do you even understand what debate is? Simply shouting straw man over and over then making silly assertions you can't back up isn't going to win you any arguments.

Of course you don't care about something that shows how utterly absurd your arguments are, but I wasn't talking about my personal background. I was talking about my professional background as a response to your assertions. You said that I know nothing, since I am to the right politically. Now, of course, you realize how silly your post was and are attempting to change your original argument to only referring to a portion of people on the right, but if that is what you meant, then that is what you should have said. Not that the 99% figure you just pulled out of thin air isn't just as absurd as 100%. What is the percentage for liberals? It is on you to defend your own ludicrous blanket statement assertions. Why do you make statements if you aren't going to bother to support them. You complain about how people you don't agree with debate but then turn around and just say things and expect everyone to except what you have clearly just made up.

If 99% of people on the right know nothing as you now assert with no supporting evidence or logic, how are they able to even function in society? Knowing nothing, after all, literally means that they know nothing about any subject at all.

 

Liberals cannot accept dissent.


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Someone needs a hug.

 

I'm just curious what legal jobs you consider to be inferior to selling drugs. I know breaking laws is no big deal to liberals, but I was honestly curious. Too bad you couldn't name a few like I asked.

 

You're all for "personal responsibility"? So you pay for your own health care and aren't getting it free of charge through the IHS which is funded by federal dollars?

 

Does personal responsibility include being able to marry whoever fits you best? Or what choices are right for your own body?

 

Whatever it is this woman does...