Bill to ban using EBT for junk food

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  1. Talon

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    Good point - I didn't consider that.
     
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    it would probably cost more to give the same number of healthy calories, but I am all for it

    I also think if were giving the rich a tax cut we should be able to have strings attached too

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    I never said beer should be covered by EBT. I don't eat Cheerios, but for those who do, dry goods could be included in EBT purchases.
     
  4. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Very good points. I never have a problem with my tax dollars going towards helping people get on their feet. I have to admit I was embarrassed when I had to use food stamps at the store. If I saw someone I knew t the market, I would leave and come back later. Dignity was important enough to me to work my a$$ off and take care of myself.


    I support a family of 6 and a healthy diet costs far less.
     
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    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Commodities only. No EBT cards that can be sold for crack.
     
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    I'm against this because it means the stores are going to have to go though hundreds of items in their system to change them from EBT to non-EBT.

    It's extra work, and it's equivalent of regulations.
     
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    It's especially disturbing when the poorer people, who are also the ones on EBT, receive support for their health care costs via the Unaffordable Care Act from those working and paying into the system. Why should we subsidize their poor health choices, and not just once, but twice? Insanity.
     
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    Eh, it was work in the first place for them to classify these items for EBT. A little extra work to reclassify them is no big deal.
     
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    There's another argument for getting rid of FullRetardCare. :beer:
     
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    You say that because it's not your job to do it. :razz:

    You only have to configure an item once when it's entered in inventory for the first time. Going back though hundreds of items to make the change is a big chore.
     
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    Colorado recently passed a bill prohibiting using EBT cards at ATMs in strip clubs and marijuana dispensaries.
     
  12. Durandal

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    At least it's creating jobs :p
     
  13. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Three times if you consider that the corn used to make HFCS is subsidized as well. It looks like a lot of tax money is used to pay for food that makes people sick and the drugs they start taking once they become sick. Those who support these programs are the ones speaking out against corporate greed. Why is corporate greed suddenly okay when it is killing poor people?
     
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    Ah yeah, freaking corn. Of all the junk our farmers could be growing... I'm sure we could be doing much better. As for the compensation, of course it's a part of how our government manages this sector of the economy very thoroughly to keep farmers in the green and food prices cheap.
     
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    I have assumed most energy drinks do as well.
     
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    My understanding is that qualifying for food stamps is based on income, not assets, ergo you could have a lot of not money and still qualify for them as long as you do not have a lot of income when you apply.
     
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    I am sure its different state by state, but a friend of mind lost his business and ended up broke. He was denied assistance because it showed that he made money that year. By the time he would have qualified, he had already found a job and was getting back on his feet. It seems that those who pay into the system cannot get help when they need it the most.
     
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    This is what you said "I'm all for limiting EBT to fresh, canned and frozen foods only."

    Six packs come in cans. Cheerios are not fresh, not frozen, and not canned and therefore not on your list.

    Can we acknowledge that, perhaps rather than saying what people can buy we should list what they cannot.

    Alcohol, prepared foods (restaurant), tobacco...Oh wait... I think those are all already on the list so then, what is this about????

    Yeah, we all know, it's those "welfare queens" loading up on steak and lobster on $132 per month.

    Yeah, it happens. But seriously, do you want to kill that particular fly with that particular hammer?
     
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    Agreed but that is not the fault of people receiving these benefits. Rather it is legislators at the federal and state level.

    Certain assets should not be included in qualification tests. First home, 2 cars, personal assets (jewelry, etc.) under $5,000. Other assets that can be made liquid should be included (more cars, 2nd home, personal over $5k.) No one should go homeless or lose all their stuff just to eat.

    The friend you described should have been able to receive benefits. It seems we often try to solve the smallest of problems with the most painful of solutions.
     
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    Then it was because of his income. My state is one of the tightest when it comes to a lot of welfare benefits. Rumor is you have to be black or know someone there even if you do qualify to get approved. Don't know. Never needed them. Your complaint about welfare is my complaint about disability. We have crack addicts and pickled drunks getting benefits and people who are arthritic or whatever from working 40 years on a concrete floor who cannot get that few years' gap covered to full retirement.
     
  21. Doofenshmirtz

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    We certainly cannot blame the recipients and we can all agree that people should never be allowed to starve or live on the street. I feel that we can only call Welfare a success if the need for it decreases over time.
     

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