So racist conservatives will date Asians more than whites but not blacks because they're racist. And racist Hispanics, and racist Asians. Good point.
There's nothing strange about saying racism is evil. The mental gymnastics racists do to deny how immoral their ideology is has to be one of the strangest forms of intellectual dishonesty there is.
the mental gymnastics is the left trying to claim that the prejudice black people exhibit is not racism
You mean how your reasoning operates by believing whites exclude blacks on dating profiles because they are racist and contorting your logic to believe whites are more racist against fellow whites than Asians to explain how whites prefer Asian females over whites over blacks? And I see you forgot to discuss those racist Latinos and Asians.... Wonder why. - - - Updated - - - I guess you're trying to make a point but all I see are data showing blacks are least desirable for all races.
I clearly said that some racial dating preference was based on physical attraction. A lot of White men prefer Asian women over White women for sexual reasons. I don't rule out that some White women reject Black men because of their aesthetics however some of them are clearly doing it because they are racist against Blacks and the evidence is that conservative White women reject Black men more than liberal White women. Now if you are going to argue racism vs. aesthetics as a motivation for racial dating preference and say that aesthetics is more of a motive then you need to back that up with statistics. What about them? Asians and Latinos can be racist.
Right back at you. I expect you to back your claim up with statistics. I'm also curious for a coherent explanation for all races other than black excluding blacks and often excluding their own race in preference for another. The logical contortions are mind boggling. Not only are you claiming a sizeable number of 'racists' exist on dating sites (where's yourdata?) to skew the data excluding blacks, but that many of these racists are a subset of racists who prefer Asians over whites but don't like blacks. Additionally, Latinos and Asians must also become racist because they too exclude blacks but not whites, Latinos and Asians. These are the mental gymnastics you must perform because you can't accept the more likely possibility that other races find blacks unattractive. This is ignoring the previous data showing more attractive and educated whites are more likely to exclude blacks. Good grief. Maybe blacks are just unattractive to non- blacks?
Again I'm not disputing that SOME people have racial dating preferences because of aesthetic preferences. But some also are racist. A sizable minority of Whites are racist especially in their racial dating preferences. Obviously there is no data on how many Whites are racist because you would have to get them to admit that. People lie. All of this is based on survey data though so if enough people are telling the truth you could get statistics on how many people have racial dating preferences based on aesthetics vs. racist attitudes. I don't know any dating site that has done this but I would predict that many people are both racist and have aesthetic preferences because they are influenced by a culture that is ingrained with racism. Studies show that as society becomes less racist racial attitudes on interracial dating are changing. Interracial marriages including White women with Black men is on the rise. This is a cultural phenomena that shows that whatever the motivation for racial dating preferences is the attitude can be eradicated by combating racism.
In order for your claim to work: 1). Whites must be racist 2). Racist whites must not be racist against Asians and Latinos 3). Latinos and Asians must be racist Latinos and Asians must not be racist against whites, Latinos and Asians 5). More attractive and educated whites must be racist Alternatively: Blacks are unattractive.
1) Many Whites are racist. 2) Many racist Whites are not as racist as they are against Blacks. 3) Many Latinos and Asians are racist. 4) Many Latinos and Asians are not as racist against themselves roll or Whites but many dislike Blacks. 5) More attractive and educated Whites that have racial dating preferences exclude Blacks which is racist. 6) White Conservatives are more likely to exclude Blacks than White liberals showing that racism is a factor (conservatives are statistically more likely to be less educated and racist). 7) I never said that physical attraction was not a factor only that racism is also a factor in racial dating preferences. 8) As society becomes less racist attitudes on interracial dating are changing and interracial marriages are increasing proving that racist cultural attitudes are a factor. 9) If Blacks were naturally unattractive Blacks would have a preference for other races over themselves. Since they don't that proves racial dating preferences are primarily a cultural phenomenon. 10) There are gender differences in racial dating preferences. Black men are more likely to date interracially than Black women. White men prefer Asian women more than White women prefer Asian men. These differences are consistent with racial stereotypes (Asian women as submissive and exotic; Asian men as puny and nerdy; White women as forbidden fruit and promiscuous; Black women as argumentative and sassy; White men as perverted and racist; Black men as aggressive and abusive). All of these stereotypes are present in the minds of many people when they consider dating outside their race because of the culture they grew up in.
That's quite the contortions act. Fact: whites are not attracted to blacks EJ: that's because they are racist Fact: the data actually shows whites have preferences for other races EJ: that's because these white racists for some reason prefer Asian women as much or more than white women Fact: Latinos and Asians do not prefer blacks EJ: that's because they are racist Fact: Latinos and Asians have preferences for other races EJ: that's because they're special kind of racists who hate blacks for some reason
This is just a distortion of my comments which ignores the facts I mentioned which indicate that racial dating preferences are motivated by both racism and aesthetic preference which are both influenced by cultural upbringing and modifiable.
It's another brain dead argument. Feel free arguing how it is racist white males prefer non-white Asian women over white women. It is also not racist for more attractive and educated whites to exclude blacks if they view all blacks as unattractive.
The problem with your argument is that you assume that racial dating preferences must be due to physical attraction rather than partially due to racial attitudes even though I have shown that Whites are more or less likely to be open to interracial relationships depending on their political ideology. I acknowledge that some of the motivation may be aesthetic preference which I do not consider to be racist however both aesthetic preference and racial attitude are influenced by culture. The proof of this is the fact that standards of beauty have changed over time and racial attitudes have also changed over time. As society has become less racist Whites have become more open to interracial dating including willingness to date and marry Blacks.
I believe that Whites who prefer Asians are probably not racist and their preference is based on cultural perceptions especially in the case of White men who prefer Asian women (who are seen as submissive and exotic). Again I clearly said that racism and aesthetic preference were both factors and that both factors can be affected by cultural change.
So these 'White racists' weren't too numerous to affect the preference for Asian women by White men yet affected the preference for Black women? Maybe the simpler answer is that Blacks are viewed as unattractive?
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You want to believe that, but if racism is not a factor how do you explain the increase in Black-White interracial marriages as disapproval of Black-White interracial marriage by Whites decreases? How do you explain White conservatives being more likely to have racial dating preferences that exclude Blacks than White liberals? Like I keep saying I don't dismiss aesthetic preference as a factor I'm just pointing out that racism is also a factor and both standards of beauty and racial attitudes can change. I suspect that you are trying to make the argument that Blacks are objectively less attractive based on some scientific criteria for beauty and that non-Black races are simply expressing their natural aversion to Black aesthetics in their dating preferences. Is that what you are insinuating. If so I'd like to see you back up that claim with empirical evidence. I won't be surprised if you come back here with some mumbo-jumbo about evolution and Blacks looking more like Apes than other races but maybe you will surprise me and posit something more reasonable and less blatantly racist nonsense. We'll see....
