Black Lives Matter? (BLM)

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Yes. But that has nothing to do with the level of "gaf about black on black violence". And I didnt claim they solved it but they did reduce.

    What silliness, Increasing police presence and enforcement of criminal laws in high crime areas has been repeatedly successful at reducing crime. Usually followed by a backlash from the black community consisting of allegations of racism on the part of the police.

    Cash bail disproportionally impacts blacks so they lessen its application. Enforcing fare jumpers on public transportation disproportionally impacts blacks so they stop prosecuting fare jumpers. Enforcing shoplifting laws disproportionally impacts blacks, so they sop prosecuting shoplifting. Resulting in more crime.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldnt question Esau's claimed level of experience with "these crime situations" . Criticism of criminal law enforcement doesnt require prior experience with "crime situations" to be legitimate
     
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    What utter nonesense. The police force is institutionally racist, this has been proven time and again. Lord only knows why you think the police would GAF about black on black violence. It's more likely the case that it is encouraged by the police. They would be out of a job otherwise.

    Think!
     
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    Just as criticism of the black community doesn't require experience of living amongst such, right...
     
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    glitch
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    I am humble enough to admit when I am wrong (I've not been lately), but some people's egos are too fragile to do that.
    Yes, mission accomplished verifying this statement I made... "The Black community lost the trust and the respect for law enforcement a long time ago and law enforcement will have to earn it back." And Memphis was another setback.
     
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    Only because as a CRTer, you believe any racial disparity that disfavors blacks is by definition institutionally racist. 75% of the murderers identified by the police in the state of Minnesota are black, and yet blacks are only 10% of the population. For CRTers this is all the proof they need to prove the police are institutionally racist.
     
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    The mission is that of BLM
     
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    Nah, it's just common knowledge. The police force in UK is also institutionally racist. It's been proven by independent governing bodies;

    I write this not as a 30-year serving police officer, an assistant commissioner of the Metropolitan police service, a board member of the race and policing action plan group, or the chief constables’ non-executive director on the board of the College of Policing. I write this as the most senior police officer of colour in the UK. I write this as Neil Basu.
     
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    The sooner you admit this, the sooner we can all begin to trust one another
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Okay, now I am starting to repeat myself. One more time. The Black community had lost the trust in law enforcement a long time ago. Things came to head and BLM protests were for police reform and changes in policies. The Black community has yet to see results even though some procedures and policies have recently been changed.
     
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    I'm curious as to when exactly the UK police became "institutionally racist." There were very few non white folks living in the UK until after World War II. Was the police force already institutionally racist or did the institution become institutionally racist in the post WW II era?
     
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    If there were very few black folk in UK then it's likely they weren't institutionally racist, since no policies were deemed necessary back then.
     
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    Well your argument is that the institution itself is racist, so what exactly happened to enact that change? Were there new Police racist rules enacted in the post WWII era? Where is the paperwork or history on this?
     
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    I'm guessing it's when the police started shooting unarmed black males in the back for no reason or killing them in their bed while they sleep with no trial.
     
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    So the Metropolitan Police have a regulation that was enacted or written in the past few decades requiring shooting unarmed black males in the back, specifically for no reason, or killing them in the bed while asleep? At what point was that enacted?
     
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    The MacPherson report was an inquiry ordered by the home secretary jack straw of the UK. It was concluded that the police force was institutionally racist.
     
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    So the police, in a matter of two generations, suddenly became institutionally racist?

    This shows the absurdity of non Americans, and particularly Europeans, adopting American social justice gobbledygook. In the US the history of black people and policing go back a very long time, so thinking the US policing is "institutionally racist" has at least a fairly long historical pedigree. That's simply not the case for UK and other European police forces. Hapless Brits suddenly dealing with Black high crime rates leaves them struggling to adopt a language to explain why (because we must know why) so you just adopt our nonsense as YOUR nonsense. Your entire PF persona as a self hating honkey wanna be Hotep is the perfect example of that. Everything about your opinions and attitudes that you've posted about on this forum for years is straight from the USA.
     
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    The MacPherson report, a UK government independent inquiry, doesn't give a damn about your feelings.
     
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    It's not my feelings at stake here. I'm not pretending to be a Hotep in a thread about a very specific US social movement.
     
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    You're just being contrary because you can. Bravo :applause:
     
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    Well not knowing much of such details in the UK Im not going to deny that you over there are a bunch of racist. CRT in the US adopts the 1619 project version of history where we fought the revolution against you to perpetuate slavery of black bodies that you were going to end. That the purpose of founding of the US to perpetuate white supremacy. That the US is uniquely more racist among nations.
     
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    Do they use the same equation our CRTers use to determine the existence of racism? Here blacks are 13% of the population but 26% of those killed by the police? They start with the assumption that but for racism, blacks would only be 13% of those shot by the police. That they are 26% proves the racism.
     
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    One doesn't need statistics to prove the police are institutionally racists. It's as clear as day.
     
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    That's my laugh for the day, if it weren't for black criminals the police would have nothing to do.
     

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