Black man charged with hate crime against white victim during the "knockout game."

Has the caste system been totally deconstructed in India? Therein lies a huge part of the wretched poverty many are forced into in India. What they do when they come here is of little interest to me, as I have never had a particularly bad or good experience with Indians, they merely exist here in my eyes. I simply view them with absolute neutrality here...

 

If your frame is 250lb plus

 

Is it not predominantly "black on white"? And is not "white on black" crime assumed to be hate crime, unless proven otherwise?

 

I might be foreign but I know enough to know never assume anything. If the individuals are charges with a hate crime and it goes before the court, there is no promise they will be convicted. The prosecution has the obligation to prove the connection, not for anyone else to disprove it. If they do fail then the precedence is set that hate crimes dont apply in these situations

 

Oh please, your a dyed in the wool liberal, assumption is strong in your sort...

What I'm talking about is the ability to even apply the concept of a hate crime must be universal, if the victims are in fact random. That would appear to be the story the media and police are telling, these victims are random. If that is not the case they need to clarify. If there is no clarification then random means random and everyone who is a victim should be protected by the same laws...

 

Well we will know once the offenders are charged

 

I didn't see anywhere in my reading that anyone is being charged with a hate crime.

 

Indeed we will.

So how is America treating you lately? Hope all is well. Sunday is usually rather bland, was hoping you'd spice it up a bit. On a side note I recently watched a documentary on Koala bears, and they appear to be very noisy and annoying creatures, I can see why people might want them out of the suburbs...

 

Recently my niece who is a handler at a zoo got bitten by one shortly after bragging she'd never been bitten by one lol

 

Sue the Zoo for everything they got, it is the American way.

 

I hope there was no lasting harm to her and she recovers quickly.

 

No doubt you have some statistics to back up your claim.

 

Or if you have a small penis. A 1911 gets the job done.

 

I'll go with a simple Google search and can find no other instance in which the exact same crime perpetrated anywhere else has netted a hate crime designation...

 

Uhm... I never knew that if you have a small penis, you should carry Desert Eagle... how do you know of the fact, my friend?

 

A Desert Eagle has few real tactical applications. It's a status gun.

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In other words your characterizations are nothing more than anecdotal.

 

It is not often that I agree with your posts, but in this instance: BRAVO.

Of course, if I were to make such a post--as a white man--I would be called a racist and surely would have the post deleted by the mods because somebody's delicate sensibilities are so easily offended by hearing the simple truth.

Of course, Bill Cosby learned this the hard way, too...

That said: Great post!

 

Not really, unless of course there is a media blackout on hate crimes be charged to similar assailants. I can find no evidence that similar attacks have such results and there are various cases to choose from. It would appear this case is 'special'.

 

You have yet to establish your claim that hate crimes against white people only apply to Jews.

 

All of these assertions about "the crimes" have NO basis in reality whatsoever. Before you proclaim something stupid", yo might wish to see what it really IS, not what some whackjob Right Wing charismatic profiteer SAYS it is.

To charge a hate crime, there must be the SAME burden of proof "beyond a reasonable doubt" as in ANY criminal conviction that the perpetrator chose the victim and committed the crime based on race/sex/religion of the victim.

Your further assertion that ALL of the surprise attacks committed in the USA must be charged as "hate crimes" or none of them is even more ridiculous. I doesn't matter if it is a black on white perpetrator or white on black or whatever. The prosecution MUST prove that the victim's selection was based on a accepted hate crime premise before a hate crime conviction or even charge can hold up. Generally, this requires admission and statements of the criminal, and it is only the utter stupidity of so many bigots that they often do self-provide the needed evidence. Other things like text messages saying "Let's beat down a honky" also provide the REQUIRED evidence.

There is NO "random" or "arbitrary" to the conviction of a hate crime.

 

Granted, comparing with .45, there's no measurable increase in stopping power; but the size, the pure awesomeness of Desert Eagle is unmatched. A status gun it is.

 

No, not even slightly.

These claims are ridiculous.

And even when obviously a hate crime, is not charged as a hate crime without critical hard evidencem such as the aggressors saying "We will run down some darkies tonight" in writing or in front of someone willing to testify to it.

A prosecutor has to PROVE it, and most often they cannot, so there are no hate crime charges.

The further frequently made assertions that "blacks are never charged with hate crimes" is utterly wrong as well.

Of 2011 hate crimes, 21% of the crimes were classed as perpetrated by blacks. That sure is WAY more than the "NONE" the "oppressed whites" keep claiming! (59% of the perpetrators were classed as white)

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2011/narratives/offenders

 

Thank you for this lesson in American jurisprudence, fiddlerdave. O.J. Simpson much?

 

And hereinlies the problem, do you think the racist/sexist bigot/hater, etc al is going to admit that he/she hates someone therefore they committed the crime? NO, they're not that stupid.

So you can't possibly have a law that can only be enforced when/if a criminal will be willing enough to tell you his theological reasons for committing the crime. Such a weak "law" shouldn't even be law.

And I always thought Hate Crime was subjective and weak, similarly to "Cyber bullying". Look, who cares if "X" is a racist, as long as his racist theology doesn't lead him to committing a crime or in the case of a businessman leading to an unfair termination.

Liberals and their ideas of controlling civil behavior is a 21st century absurdity!

 

I don't even know what you are trying to say for most of your senseless rant or your bizarre attribution to some charismatic profiteer, please explain that in more detail. I get the information on such things from CNN, the NYT, as I already know any other sources would be considered 'tainted' by the left...

The very concept of a 'hate crime' is laughable at best, down right pathetic at worst. It is completely arbitrary, the very idea that hate can be expressed in any manner in accordance to an instance of crime is a joke. Is there less hate if someone stabs another 40 times but fails to scream out a racial/sexual/ or other epitaph? Prosecute the actual offense that occurs, not some arbitrary measure of 'hate' on a limited basis that creates new classes of victims and offenders that would otherwise never exist. The very concept of hate crimes creates a situation in which the law itself becomes unequal in its application for all...