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Even the US president called the American media "fake news." RT is good media. At least in RT there is much more truth than, for example, in Spiegel. Is not it?
And if you can refute RT - refute.

 

You agree with the assertion that the Black Community needs White People to be murdered in order to be whole?

 

Fact is, LEO's already kill twice as many whites as blacks. And it isn't by quota or per capita. It just works out that way as a matter of the individual behavior of citizens. Every killing is investigated as to whether or not it was justified. If not, there are charges and a trial by Jury. None of it has to do with race. All the protests and riots we are seeing is BS, fueled by the leftist mainstream media and Democrat party.

 

Yup. And they kill far more men than women, and it's not because of sexism. Where they misuse their authority, they need to be held to account, only the very best may be trusted with the authority we vest in our peace officers. Trump's national data base of misuse of force complaints is a very good start.

 

First of all I do not refute any source, because I look on all sources from all sides to get compact informations. The art of rating facts without BS comment in reports is to focus on the fact only about what happened at least.

And that Trump calls US media as fakenews is so new like earth is not flat. And you recognize that Trump, as well is blinded followers, rate only these media to be fake news, which he hates and / or are cirical to him, like CNN for example ... but other media who crawl more into his butt are of course not ... like Fox News for example.

And that Trump himself take the ter fake news at all is only rediculous in its own, because he is the proven master and king of spreading fake news. It all started still during the election campaign before he moved into White House with incredible lies, but all candidates lie usually at election campaigns to get votes.
But the first of thousands of fake news was still at his inaugutation when this idiot claimed that at him were far more people as at Obama ... bad that the pictures gave direct proof that his is a lie and wven this bad try to edit the photo was fast dismantled. And who reported his fake news about too, eh? RT News!

 

That's why I write - RT, these are good media. What is wrong with my statement? German media are much less truthful. For example, read what the German media write about Ukraine and the Donbass. What they write is a direct lie. Or read about the downed Malaysian Boeing over Ukraine - 100% lie. Once again - at the moment, RT is the most honest publication in the Western media.

 

O my god ... and I say god as atheist now!
Look what your Russian media write about Donbass and Ukraine what is all a direct lie please!

And about the Malaysian Boing, you know that the fake news spread in Russia are still dismantled. Was a nice try of Russian ministry to show a picture of a mobile BUk missile launcher which was allegdly photographed in the area and in a village under contrl of Ukrainian troops ... but bad luck that it was very fast proven to be photographed in a village under rebel control at this time!
And forget it to deny this FACT ... it will make you only to be a clown Destroyer ... this is 100% proven fact!

Read here ... and do not even dream about to deny these FACTS!!!

https://www.stopfake.org/en/pre-mh17-photograph-of-buk-332-discovered/

Ad RT? They reported the same mental BS that is was dne by Ukraine itself ... sorry ... RT is not better as Spiegel, CNN, Foc News, The Sun and so on ... smae sort of biased rubbish media .. only frm the other side as the others. Fake News and lies stay to be fake news and lies ... no matter who tells them!

 

Basically, I expected what you wrote. Western media zombies, are unable to think critically. It is not your fault, it is your misfortune. Do you believe the nonsense that Western media write. Even if it seems to you that you have the ability to think independently - in reality this is just an illusion. Western media have given you the installation and you unwittingly undergo zombies.
Maybe you should try reading political treatise. For example, "Capit" of your countryman. Or "Imperialism as the highest stage of capitalism." This will free your subconscious from zombies by Western media.

 

Yup. They hate us and they want to destroy us.

Defund the Thought Police.

“Dissent from their approved views is not just considered an error, much less an innocent one. It is considered immoral, illegitimate, and unworthy of a public hearing. Opponents are seen in religious terms, as dangerous apostates who deserve to be burned at the stake, at least symbolically. You never expect the Spanish Inquisition. Yet here it is. That is the powerful iconography behind torching police cars and neighborhood stores.”​

 

But Russian media zombies are ableto think critically you want to tell? Sorry, bullsh**!

I do for sure not defend the often, but not always crappy Western Media. But I do not then make the errr you do and telling that the "Eastern" media is the best and so on ... what is as told only BS!

And please ... don't come with this nonsense in matter of communism vs. capitalism / imperialism ... but as I still know, you deny the mass murdering of Stalin still today and tell all is evil western Propaganda and all this other BS of nonsense! I had this experience with you still in the past...

Note...
As far as Putin is for me a despot and a new version of tsarism with democratic paint over it ... I have nothing against Putin. What he does is Russian issue, not my one. I respect him and I know that he stands to his word insteed the USA with Donald Dumbass in White House.

For me, the annexation of the Crimea by Russia is not a problem and is completely OK. Most of the inhabitants were Russians anyway and that the Crimea remained with Ukraine after the end of the USSR was a mistake of the constantly drunk Yeltzin.
I also have no problem with the fact that the Donbass gets sovereignty or autonomy ...
I find the Russians' efforts in Syria completely legitimate. Even if Assad is a bloody bastard, Syria has been an area of influence for the Russians for 60 years and thus the "problem" of Syria is a Russian thing and not that of the West ...
And I find the sanctions against Russia ridiculous and excessive.

In short ... I have no problem with many things why Russia is depicted as evil ... but I remain objective and do not glorify Russia or deny the negative things and facts and all the like ...
Let's take the Russian invasion of Afghanistan and the crimes committed there (on both sides) ... which you glorify, for example, and where you deny everything negative ... and at the same time let go of a thunderstorm over the ISAF operation, etc.

The same applies to the West as a whole and especially to the USA ... and the hypocrisy of many Americans in dealing with their country's actions pisses me off just as much as Donald Prump pisses me off for 20 years.

In short: I'm generally more neutral about everything here ... at least I try to. And as far as the media is concerned, I inform myself as comprehensively as possible with all considerations and perspectives ... but concentrate on the core of the facts without stupid comments and reviews by the media ... whether Western, Russian, Chinese or whatever Media!

Roger that?

 

Bravo! I completely agree. Alcoholic Yeltsin is a shame for Russia. Yes.

As for the ridiculous claims of "Stalin the tyrant", the last time I gave you arguments that show the absurdity of such a statement. I showed you historical documents stating that in the “worst” year 1937, there were fewer prisoners in the Gulag camps throughout the USSR (these are Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan .... there are only 14 republics) more than today in the USA . And besides, I looked at the data on the number of prisoners in modern Russia (in 2000) and compared them with 1937. In absolute numbers in the 1937 USSR there are of course slightly more prisoners, but if you look at the 1000 inhabitants, then in Russia in 2000 there were more prisoners than in the “worst” year of 1937. At the same time, neither in Russia nor in the USA is anyone afraid that he will be arrested under cover of night.
And in this matter, I can only repeat - you are a victim of the Western media.
I do not know how many prisoners were in Germany in 1937. But I think that there were more of them than in the USSR.
And I would be interested to know how many prisoners there are in modern Germany. Can you name a number?

And further. I was very pleased with the Germans. A monument to Vladimir Lenin was unveiled in the city of Gelsenkirchen in western Germany. This was reported by the newspaper Die Welt. This means that the Germans are moving in the right direction. Bravo!

 

The Police deal with these kinds of people day in and out. They know how to handle them. But the Mayors and Governors of those cities are restraining their own Police for some reason/reasons. I don't understand it. What could be their rationale? Do they expect to be re elected by the citizens they've abandoned to the mobs? Do they expect businesses and industry to thrive in lawlessness and the constant threat of violence...and to stay? Do they think that a nation of civilized, law abiding citizens will look at what they are doing and say to themselves, Yes I think I like that?

 

I don't buy the idea that there is this big split between the management of the police departments and these politicians, they negotiate with one another, all the time, and in these rioting cities, they are all Union Democrats.

As for the constituents, are any of them mounting recall efforts? I know of none.

 

If you are right, that makes it even worse. But I did read something about constituents filing lawsuits against their government for not doing anything about the insurrection. Not sure where, Wisconsin or Washington State.

 

Here's one:

https://www.oregonlive.com/clackama...yed-police-brutality-faces-recall-effort.html

 

Its good that there are safe places for them to protest. It would not be safe to protest where black lives face the highest threat.

 

Because Antifa/BLM are part of their coalition, their shock troops.

Nobody is recalling them.

Those folks tend to be Republicans who they don't view as being fully human, and so they casually violate their civil rights. They really don't care if they leave. They labor under the misconception that complex relationships arise spontaneously, so they casually destroy these systems confident that something better will just spring up in it's place. They have no concept of what it takes to building a working business.

Everyone is so intimidated by the cancel culture, that they are afraid to speak up. Speaking up can quickly cost you your job, get you thrown out of school or off a team or even have screaming protesters camped outside your house and destroying your car. So they are not even facing recall elections, but, they might be shocked come November.

 

It may be that everyone is pretty intimidated by the cancel culture. They can whip up a mob quickly, bombard your employer, get you fired, thrown out of school, or even put a angry mob screaming outside your house, and they will do it. So, there is a hesitation to speak up, though hopefully, a message will be sent in November.

SCOTUS has repeatedly ruled that we are not entitled to police protection, ultimately our safety is up to us.

In the 1989 landmark case of DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services, the U.S. Supreme Court held that the failure by government workers to protect someone (even 4-year-old Joshua DeShaney) from physical violence or harm from another person (his father) did not breach any substantive constitutional duty. In this case, Joshua’s mother sued the Winnebago County Department of Social Services, alleging it deprived Joshua of his "liberty interest in bodily integrity, in violation of his rights under the substantive component of the Fourteenth Amendment's Due Process Clause, by failing to intervene to protect him against his father's violence.” While the Department took various steps to protect Joshua after receiving numerous complaints of the abuse, the Department took no actions to remove Joshua from his father's custody. Joshua became comatose and extremely retarded due to traumatic head injuries inflicted by his father who physically beat him over a long period of time.

Nevertheless, the Court found that the government had no affirmative duty to protect any person, even a child, from harm by another person. “Nothing in the language of the Due Process Clause itself requires the State to protect the life, liberty, and property of its citizens against invasion by private actors," stated Chief Justice Rehnquist for the majority, "even where such aid may be necessary to secure life, liberty, or property interests of which the government itself may not deprive the individual" without “due process of the law.”

The DeShaney decision has been cited by many courts across the nation and reaffirmed by the U.S. Supreme Court. Namely—on June 27, 2005, in Castle Rock v. Gonzales, the U.S. Supreme Court again ruled that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm. The decision overturned a federal appeals court ruling which permitted a lawsuit against the town of Castle Rock for the police’s failure to respond after Jessica Gonzales tried to get the police to arrest her estranged husband Simon Gonzales for kidnapping their three daughters (ages 7, 8, and 10) while they were playing outside, in violation of a court-issued protective order. After Simon called to tell Jessica where they were at (in Denver at an amusement park), for hours she pleaded for the police to arrest Simon. But, the police failed to act before Simon showed up at the police department and started shooting inside, and with the bodies of the 3 children in the trunk of his car.

In her suit against the town, Jessica argued that the protective order stating “you shall arrest” or issue a warrant for arrest of a violator and that it gave her a “property interest” within the meaning of the 14th Amendment’s Due Process guarantees, which prohibits the deprivation of property without due process. By framing their case as one of procedural Due Process and not of substance, Jessica and her lawyers had hoped to get around the 1989 DeShaney precedent. To no avail, the U.S. Supreme Court saw little difference between this case and the DeShaney case. Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the majority, stated that Ms. Gonzales did not have a "property interest" in enforcing the restraining order and that "such a right would not, of course, resemble any traditional conception of property." The Court went on to reaffirm the DeShaney ruling that there is no affirmative right to aid by the government or the police found in the U.S. Constitution, and thus no legal recourse could be brought thereunder. The “no duty to protect” rule remains unwavering and the law today.

Needless to say, the stories of Joshua DeShaney and Jessica Gonzales’ three daughters (and countless similar stories) are saddening, and the rulings seem to be at odds with our common and fundamental understanding that the police are here to ensure our safety and provide protection.

Though alarming, we simply have no affirmative right to police aid, even when a person, including a helpless child, faces imminent danger. We are all responsible for our own personal safety, whether we like it or not.

https://www.barneslawllp.com/blog/p...mon called to tell,the police to arrest Simon.

 

Then again the failure to succeed at defending someone or something is far different than refusing to even try. You can fail to take the hill. But to refuse is desertion. In short, yes we do have the right to protection, but not the guarantee due to human shortcomings and systemic breakdown. The outright failure to act on our behalf in deference to the angry mob is not a human or systemic failure, but is outright treason, for which there is no justification imo. These leaders have sworn oaths to uphold the law and the constitution and to protect the citizens. And the citizens paid them as well.

 

Destroyer ... honestly:

The problem with you about crimes of USSR is that you still believe the crap presented as propaganda by the communists insteed checking facts.

You make the big mistake that you just want to wipe away all the proven stuff about dne GULAG and all the mass murders under Stalin with a pen stroke "all western lies" ... although the stuff from documents of the KGB (or NKVD beforehand) and countless Statements by witnesses are proving it.

According to the documents of the KGB ... evidence that you cannot deny ... In the great purge of Stalin in 1937/1938 a total of almost 1.5 million people were arrested as alleged Trotskyists and counter-revolutionaries. According to the KGB ... the documents were unfortunately accessible under Yeltsin, but not since Putin ... around 640,000 people were shot and buried in countless secret mass graves ... for example in the occupied mass graves Butowo (20,000 from the 2 years) and Kommunarka (14,000 from 1937 to 1941) near Moscow, in the forest areas Sandarmoch (10,000 from the 2 years) and Krasny Bor (15,000 from the 2 years) in North Russian Karelia, only by 4 of the many known mass graves of the to call Stlinist terror.

Russia ... and you in person ... still have a hard time dealing with the crimes. To deny, to talk nicely, to repeat the Stalinist propaganda lies as a justification when denying no longer works and to invent ridiculous reasons are often the case. Stalin was victorious over the bastard Hitler and the USSR bore the brunt of the struggle against the Nazis, including countless millions of dead ... but Stalin was also a bloody dictator of the USSR's millions of citizens.
So I would not be surprised if you ... because you can neither dispute the purge nor the number of victims without making a fool of yourself ... then call the whole thing a justified measure. Only ... if 1.5 million are evil enemies of the state in one of the many purges, what goes wrong in the state, eh?

Or take a look at the construction of the Belomor ... then Stalin Canal from 1931 to 1933! Even according to documents from the NKVD, 150,000 forced laborers were used for this ... other sources assume up to 350,000 forced laborers ... but where did they all come from, apart from the fact that it contradicts your statement above!

I could go on forever now ... even if you still call things like Katyn a German crime, although it is more than proven that it was the NKVD (don't worry, I don't deny that Nazi Germany has killed 6 million Jews and murdered millions of other people or so ... some of my ancestors died in concentration camp due to be social democrats once) ... I would like to mention Stalin's command 270 as a last example!

Do you know his order No. 270 from August 1941? Then read it and explain to me that it is not a crime against your own soldiers of the Red Army ... and later also against civilian forced laborers to whom was then order 270 belonging too!

 

Again you write nonsense. To be precise, 1,196,369 people were in the "In the terrible 37th" in the Gulag, of which 87% were felons. These are those who were already in the Gulag camps in 1937. Many were arrested in other years.
This is the data for the entire USSR (Russia, Ukraine, Belarus .... only 14 republics) And do not forget what time it was. (In Germany, for example, during the same period there were "Night of the Long Knives" and "Kristallnacht", And in the USA Defarming and labor camps Roosevelt )
Now for comparison. In the USA, at the moment, in peacetime, more than 2.3 million people are in prison.
Following your logic, now US citizens must shake with horror, awaiting arrest? Well this is nonsense.
About Katyn. I personally already showed you a link to the decision of the international court at the request of the Poles for compensation for Katyn. The international court rejected the lawsuit. Moreover, the evidence of the Polish side was falsified. As indicated by the international court. In 2012, if I'm not mistaken.
And it’s amazing why you always write about Katyn, but don’t remember the Belarusian village of Khatyn? The very one where your fellow countrymen, together with the Baltic and Ukrainian fascists, burned alive the whole population, which they locked in a barn. And those trying to escape from the flame were shot. And there were only old people, women and children.
About the construction of the Belomor channel, you write the same nonsense. If you are interested, I can tell you real events. Just a warning - I do not speak English and it will be difficult for me to write a large text. But if necessary, I will write.
And further. I am always surprised by the zombies of the Western media. You write "Stalin tyrant", but do not mention the leadership of your countries. The Germans are trying not to write about their 30s, the British are silent about crimes in India, against the Boers, about crimes in Tasmania ... etc., the Belgians are silent about crimes in Africa, the Americans are silent about defarming and concentration camps .... Why? But scream - Stalin tyrant. Stalin in comparison with those who led the "civilized" Europe at the same time - an angel. You look at yourself for starters, and then blame others.
In this case, modern Germans are respected by the fact that they erected a monument to Lenin. This makes me happy.

I recommend you read two works. Today, these works are more relevant than ever.

1. Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/
2. state and revolution https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/
And you will know everything about what is happening in the world.

P\S: You never said how many prisoners are in Germany now.

 

Says who and / or what?

We are talking about USSR and not the others here ... so focus on this please and stop any BS comparing like now.

Soooo ... You tell now that Putin is a liar when he still confirmed in 2010 that Katyn was done by NKVD and not the Nazis? Very interesting ...

So ... you are not able to disproof and counter argue the proven digits of the purge in 1937 / 1938 at least but you try to wish it away with hints and re-directing to crimes done by the others?

This is counted every six months in Germany ... In January it was 65,796 people with 83,000,000 inhabitants ... makes a quota of 0.08%

And in Russia?
527,216 people with 144.5 million inhabitants ... makes a quota of 0.36%

So almost five times in Russia in quota and more than eight times as many people ... as in Germany

And since you mentioned the USA at the beginning with its 2.3 million. The USA has a good 328 million inhabitants and that makes a quota of 0.7% ... than around twice of that in Russia ... but the USA also has more than twice the population than Russia ...

I would be very careful in your place, because what you did here is called an own goal in soccer!


And in general ... I do not write nonsense ... I write facts which you don't like to read because it shows a pricture that you don't like about your country and which is in contrast of Russian Propaganda.

You are only able to reply BS of Propaganda as counter issue but not facts. Sorry to say ... but at least you are in the same area like the idiots of Neo-Nazis today who deny the crimes of Nazis because it hurts their view on Hilter .... only the facts here hurt your view on Stalin insteed!

 

1. You always write nonsense about Stalin.

2. if you read my comment above, you will see, I wrote that in Russia in 2000, the number of prisoners per 100,000 people is higher than under Stalin in the “worst” year of 1937. In other words, under Stalin the number of prisoners was less than in modern Russia and the USA. That is, to consider this indicator as the tyranny of Stalin is stupid.

3. Putin never claimed that the Poles in Katyn were shot by the NKVD. This is a lie. But. I do not care what Putin says about Stalin. Putin, like Merkel, Trump, Macron ... and so on, is only an expression of the interests of the ruling class. Today, the ruling class in Russia, and in Germany, and in the United States - the oligarchs. Therefore, the president, prime minister, chancellor and others will do and say only what is beneficial to the ruling class. And the ruling class is afraid of the growing popularity of Stalin, Lenin, Marx among the world's population.

4. Actually, we are talking about zombies of the Western media. The USSR is in the context of our discussion. As an example of the behavior of a typical zombie of the Western media. And if in this context we are talking about the USSR, then we must indicate the fact that the USSR consisted of 14 republics and Russia is only one of these republics. Western media zombies often think that the USSR is only Russia.

Another indicator of zombie Western media. It is a matter of victory in World War II.
Western media write that the main winners are the USA and Britain. They write about the USSR — the USSR participated in the war against Germany and its allies. And that’s all. The Americans and British defeated the fascist. Led by Brad Pete. And the Russians just participated.
And many, especially young people, believe in this nonsense.
Fortunately, there are those who know the real story and are interested in it. And these are not only professors in their academic disputes. Pink Fluid musicians are highly educated people. For example, Roger Waters.

 

I don't disagree, I'm just telling you the state of the law today.

 

Guess I got carried away. Thanks for the heads up and research.