Boeing 737 Max 8 Ethiopia Airlines Crash

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  1. Bow To The Robots

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    Not pilots... system operators. Pilots would have known how to take control of the plane.
     
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    I would agree with you, except that we know that there is an error in their system. Until that gets fixed, I think its a huge deal that the planes are not grounded. Would you fly in one right now?
     
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    Great news for America - except for the Trump supporters who have spent the past five pages saying it wasn't necessary.
     
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    Just found out that the pilot had 8000 hours experience. There is no report yet on what caused this crash. The pilot issued a distress call. Where is there any evidence that this pilot was not capable.

    This report gives details of the previous crash including anger expressed by US airlines and it's much more complicated to counter the fault than you have described:
    https://arstechnica.com/information...-safety-feature-change-pilots-werent-told-of/
     
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    I used skyscanner and it selected Alaska airlines and gave no information on type of plane
     
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    Link to the pilot's stick time, please?
     
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    Well then I guess you should use another website. I've flown Alaska's 738 and 739 multiple times and I am still here to tell you all about it. I generally won't fly a cut rate or 3rd world airline. Although I actually flew MH 370 from KUL to PEK about two years before its mysterious disappearance. I've had very positive flight experiences with KAL, JAL, and Air China. But most of my flying is AA, UA (hate them), Lufthansa, BA, Air France (hate them). That said, Alaska is my all time favorite airline for domestic travel. I wouldn't worry about stepping onto any of their planes (though they did lose one several years back off Ventura, CA).
     
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    Unfortunately Colt never issued a recall on the M-16A1.

    Instead they spent almost twenty years fixing all of the problems and came out with the M-16A2.

    And the M-16A2 was politically correct because you couldn't use the politically incorrect 5.56 x 45mm M193 cartridge.

    It made liberals happy and commies and America's enemies were all happy campers.
     
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    President Donald Trump initially announced that the FAA would be making an emergency order following "new information and physical evidence that we've received from the site and from other locations and through a couple of other complaints"
    So President Donald Trump is a Liberal WOW!!! I'll soon be seeing faeries at the bottom of my garden if this goes on.
     
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    So no one is actually removing the cars from the streets?
     
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    The problem happens when the airplane is in the autopilot mode. Maybe they turn it on too soon? Anyway, the pilots should be able to fly the plane manually.
     
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    So?
     
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    Hindsight is a wonderful ability
     
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    I think the pilots were turning on the autopilot too soon. The problem is in angle of attack sensor - during the climb the angle of attack could be a bit too steep and the sensor freaks out - autopilot reacts with pulling the nose down.

    Anyway, the crash could have been prevented if the pilots shut off the autopilot as soon as the plane nosedived.
     
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    There was a delay between switching on autopilot and the nosedive - it wasn't immediately obvious that the cause was due to autopilot and it isn't as simple as turning off autopilot to correct the fault.
     
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    Most American commercial pilots have thousands of hours in the cockpit of military aircraft who are all well trained to fly by the seats of their pants when technology fails like Chesley Burnett "Sully" Sullenberger
    Most shithole countries don't have much of an air force meaning shithole airlines shithole pilots don't have much experience with dealing with emergencies in the air.
     
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    Not no more, billy. The Orange Oaf saw the danger signal (for him!) flashing red when we were the last big player to ground the Max 8/9.
     
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    Something else you know nothing about.
     
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    Keep telling 'em--maybe something will register.
     
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    It will be interesting to see if Boeing cut a corner to save a few bucks.
     
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    A pathetic comment.
     
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    Im interested in the result of the examination of the black box data and if it will be announced as "conclusive" or "inconclusive" by Boeing.....
     
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    I went to Alaska and they tell what plane you're on.
     
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    Boeing won't be making the call. It will be the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB).
     
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