Boy Scouts of America may file for bankruptcy

It is true that they did that. The problem is that at best that policy did nothing for the safety of children. You're arguing for a policy that actively discriminates, doesn't do any good and potentially does harm just for money.

No, their institutional failure to deal with child abuse when it was happening, in part because they put their "moral" principles and public image above child safety, is why they're facing problems. I'm not sure the people leaving the BSA are doing it because they don't trust gay men, they're doing it because they don't trust the BSA.

And the fact remains that there are lots of other youth organisations, in the US and beyond, which have long accepting gay leaders/teachers/etc. without facing the same problems. In fact, if the BSA have destroyed their image so badly, maybe it has to be allowed to die and leave the more competent organisations or entirely new replacements fill the gap.

 

The liberal plan is working perfectly ... destroy all institutions associated with traditional American values.

 

Trump is President and so many corporations going bankrupt... just like his businesses... let's hope America is not next

 

It's not an accident. It was the plan.

Morality, discipline, and self reliance is in direct contact to the leftists agenda.

 

I made it to Star Scout and was proud of that I did it without special considerations for my disability more than absolutely needed and earned eighteen badges before turning into an adult and was a scout adult leader after that until they let young transgenders and then girls in properly it was worse and glad I left before that. I gained a lot from the scouts and they helped me especially as a disabled young man they treated me as an equal and helped me become a good man. I had no issue with gay young men it was girls who were 'boys' against their natural gender that did it for me.

 

So you are arguing the sex of the victim is irrelevant in Ephebophilla?

 

Well why are you pretending to not get my point when you understand it perfectly well?

 

How is the "problem with [my] analysis" that "sexual abuse charges was stretching back decades, but the pedophilia from the scoutmasters abusing young boys went back since forever?" That seems to be what I've been saying consistently through this thread, but for some reason, that's a sticking point for you and many others. I'm guessing that you think I'm making different points than the ones I'm actually making.

 

I don't think "lip sevice" is too far off from the truth, but I think that the true purpose was to attempt to limit legal liability. Think of the number of law suits the BSA has had to deal with over the decades on just this issue.

As far as I know, this was never about restricting boys joining the scouts, but adults in supervisory positions in the scouts. A 9 year old kid probably isn't going to know if he's gay or not, but a 22 year old definitely does. I really doubt the decades of law suits on sex abuse were about one kid diddling another kid, but a scout leader abusing one of their charges.

 

Three right wingers blame the left for what the Boy Scouts have become.

But they ignore the fact that the Boy Scout's president is a Republican!

 

Being a republican doesn't mean much anymore.

That's why only Trump could have won in 2016, every other republican would have lost.

 

Being a Republican means never having to say you're sorry even though they cause every problem we have in this society and overseas.

It is time for forum Republicans to own up to it. Of course, that would entail a demonstration of integrity which is why they never elevate themselves into doing so.

 

Yeah... Who needs jobs and a strong economy and the destruction of the Caliphate?

Republicans should be more concerned with keeping Americans on food stamps and helping Iran get nuclear weapons.

 

idiots bringing politics into it are the root of evil, whom gives a crap, just combine the boyscouts & girlscouts already & keep the pubescent ones away from all others...

as for the fools stating businesses are going bankrupt because of trump, i say you're just 'blind faith followers'. billy goat began the downfall during his terror reign forcing sub-prime loans to unqualified businesses & individuals, it was so bad that to this very day many are still faced with foreclosure & bankruptcy that can be directly tied to billy goat's incompetence as potus

 

You may thank Democrat Obama for strengthening the economy which had been screwed up by your hero traitor Bush. And, as we all know, the Bush crime family has given ship loads of $$$ to America's enemies.

As for food stamps, nobody gets more than do Republican counties while Republican businessmen have their three martini lunches at taxpayers expense. Iran does not have nukes - see my earlier posts from IAEA.




Now, let's get back to the issue at hand - BSA is screwed? Thank its REPUBLICAN leader.


You're welcome.

 

huh? the economy statistically and historically does better under democrats, lol.

 

Agreed-they don't want strong boys, or strong men.

This is what they want...

 

Obama handed Iran billions and child poverty reached record levels on his watch.

 

Sex is irrelevant in regard to any of the philias beyond identification purposes. A child is abused and should be dealt with as harshly as possible. That's the relevant part.

 

It was iran's money, not ours. And poverty tends to increase during recessions as bad as the republican caused mess of 2008.

 

the boy scouts becoming political is what did them in

that said, it's supposed to be a non-profit, what did they borrow all this money for that they can't pay back?

 

It really is amazing how misinformed people become once they start getting their news from memes on their Facebook news feed...

 

I don't think it was about that at all. Over the last couple of decades the high-ranking officials in boy scouts and even lower ranking officials we're increasingly Mormon. And their church has more traditional values so it would make sense that it would have more traditional values. As I said before it should have always been up to the unit I eat the troop the pack crew whatever.

there were actually rules against boys being homosexual. True it probably didn't effect Cub scouts much. Cub scouts being boy scouts for children in elementary school. But boy scouts is for boys between 12 and 17 as well. And it's very possible that a 12- 17 year old realized he is homosexual. They lifted that rule before the end of the rule on leaders

I really doubt the Decades of sex abuse was because they let gay leaders in. I don't know why those two things are related to you. I think it had a lot more to do with the Mormon influence. And now that we see the Mormon influence waning we see the organization going bankrupt.

 

So...what you are saying that an ephebophile is neither heterosexual or homosexual? It's it's own preference? Eh...I'm not buying it.

 

By traditionally minded you mean an opposition to having homosexuals in the Boy Scouts? Are you saying that was just a Mormon thing? That "traditionally minded" position was held by every single church and social civic organization that sponsored Boy Scouts 50 years ago. That wasn't some wacky Mormon fetish. That described the cultural default of the entire world 50 years ago.