Boy Scouts of America Opt to Destroy Themselves

come on which god told you being gay was wrong what was the justification?

 

Who says there's nothing wrong?


Accepting that it goes on and it being right are different things.

 

actually its how they treat people based on who their attracted to which they cant help as you said just like us hetero sexuals they would still have rules about not accepting sexual activity among scouts for every one

 

they will just have to use suitable objects for anal stimulation you know the people of either gender who are into anal sex which is not all gay people or limited to them

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being gay is not sex its an orientation that was already a part of them when they imposed a ban on it

 

if you want to have sex with the same gender and not the other one your gay iv been hetero sexual since I was about 10 or 11 before then I did not care about sex I did not have sex till I was 26 or 27 nothing changed after that im as a hetero sexual as ever

you do know the boy scouts when they had the ban on gay scouts were going by orientation 2 and not by sexual history right?

 

Try that for starters. Oh and also the fact that we don't assume something immoral until proven moral.

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...Of course, holding a certain profession is not something biologically ingrained into a person. Again, look up what homosexuality actually means, and you'll find that you've been wrong.

 

So you'd have nothing against someone who's homosexual being in the organization until they make a move? Until then it's not a behavioral problem.

Obviously the Scouts should be able to make their own decision on this, and it'd be just as wrong for you to force them to do otherwise as it is for the gay rights community. They've made their decision, it's their club, I don't see the issue. If you don't like it then don't attend. Simple as that.

Same with the people whining about homosexuals still not being allowed in command positions. If you think you can do a better job then put your money where your mouth is and start up a competing organization.


Allowing the odd homosexual kid to be in the club changes next to nothing. The kids are too busy camping and learning other useful skills to care about this entirely political issue. You want to talk about political correctness? Take a look at the right's reaction to this announcement.

 

naa being gay is just an attraction to the same gender you can be perfectly healthy with that and its not harmful of itself exploitive of itself or repressive of itself so it seems pretty morally acceptable

and the age range in scouts covers kids old enough to know which gender or genders they like

 

but no ones been able to give a good reason why it would be wrong it may be what you want others to believe but its apparently a lie that you have fallen for

sorry you cant tolerate children even if they have not done anything but feel a certain way

neither gay nor heterosexual scouts are supped to be having sex any way so no problems there

 

why do you people lie to yourselves with all of this pc crap we have though about the issue and we cant find any good reason to say being gay is wrong and when you fail to convince us you tell your selves story's to explain why

your the one in a pc fog buddy

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you have no idea

 

um no homosexuality is not an out cast its an attraction to the same gender and its easy to accept you may treat homosexual people like outcasts for some reason but a lot of people would do the same to you because your being pointlessly cruel to people who have done nothing wrong and a lot of people hate that

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yes you should you make claims

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um you seem like a terrible person to me because of morality

 

so you got nothing

 

knowledge that being gay doesn't cause you to harm others or be harmed or limit liberty

an opinion that the golden rule of doing unto other as you would have them do unto you is wise and good

knowable that letting people mistreat others because they feel like it endangers all of are liberty's

 

I do being gay doesn't cause harm limit freedom or do anything bad to people so is not bad

being hetero sexual doesn't make you a better person then being a homosexual

 

FINALLY, more clarity from a leftist

if I wanted to create a club exclusively for plumbers then I could. If I wanted to create a club exclusively for vegans then again, I could. If I wanted to create a club exclusively for those who engage in gay sex then I could and the list goes on.

It would not mean that plumbers are better than landscapers; it's just an exclusive club. But, do yo really think that landscapers would go whining about it or make their own club?

The BSA did not want homosexuals. It does not mean that heteros are better than homos nor does it mean that homos are better than heteros.

As a boys only club, they simply wanted those older kids who slipped jimmy into Kristen. It's no different than if they excluded vegetarians.

 

and now they have decided to stop excluding some of the people that scouting is for

The Boy Scouts of America is one of the nation's largest and most prominent values-based youth development organizations. The BSA provides a program for young people that builds character, trains them in the responsibilities of participating citizenship, and develops personal fitness.

For over a century, the BSA has helped build the future leaders of this country by combining educational activities and lifelong values with fun. The Boy Scouts of America believes — and, through over a century of experience, knows — that helping youth is a key to building a more conscientious, responsible, and productive society.

 

this thread is dedicated to hating that the organization now includes more young people even though that's in line with its purpose because some people hear think your are a worse person for being gay its about having a problem with what an organization chooses to do did I miss you complaining to grock about doing that? sorry if I did sec

 

which is their prerogative. When they allow homosexuals to be troop leaders is when the final nail in the coffin of the BSA will b driven.

At least still today you can't punish people for not putting their boys into the BSA.

 

Oh wow, how did I miss this. Dude, you do realize that homosexuality existed before modern leftism, right? Like, there were homosexual greeks before the birth of Christ. You are one hilarious numpty.

What about the BSA would exclude homosexuals? No, seriously, look at their moral code, and tell me what there is.

...Um, no. Look again.

On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.

A Scout is:
Trustworthy,
Loyal,
Helpful,
Friendly,
Courteous,
Kind,
Obedient,
Cheerful,
Thrifty,
Brave,
Clean,
and Reverent.

By excluding homosexuals, the scouts are implicitly saying that homosexuals cannot do their duty to god or country, or that they cannot help others, or that they can't be moral, or that they can't follow the laundry list of positive character traits demanded in the scout law. By excluding homosexuals, the scouts are sending a very clear message: "heteros are better than homos".

 

nah, just that they think giving and receiving penis is morally wrong. If they want to change that then again, it's their business.

The proof will be in the pudding when gay leaders are allowed and we get to see mom and dad make the final decision. Look to the north and Scouts Canada (formerly boy scouts canada) and see what happens when that path is taken.

At the end of the day, even leftists want to protect their children from potential harm.

There is a reason why most parents prefer female babysitters.

 

The "pressure" actually came from within by Boy Scouts and former Boy Scouts that objected to the bigoted invidious intolerance against gays. Every story I've read about the objections to the ban on gays in the BSA were from former or current Boy Scouts and I'm unaware of any "gay organization" support for their cause although it could have existed. The foundation was the fight against intolerance by the BSA coming from Scouts and former Scouts.

The next elephant in the living room for the BSA is their bigoted invidious intolerance of those that don't believe in god that are also prohibited from being members of the BSA. Whether the person believes in god or not has nothing to do with the moral character of the person nor does it have anything to do with the lessons the BSA seeks to impart to the children.

 

I would suggest this list should have been different with the following highlighted addition:

A Scout is:
Trustworthy,
Loyal,
Helpful,
Friendly,
Courteous,
Kind,
Obedient,
Cheerful,
Thrifty,
Brave,
Clean,
Intolerant
and Reverent.

BTW I'm a Natural Born Citizen of the United States and I have NO DUTY TO GOD. The United States is a secular nation and as an American we have no DUTY TO GOD so why does the BSA promote this?

 

Those attempting to impose their anti-gay agenda upon society should derive reassurance from reality:

There is no reciprocal initiative to ban homophobes from the Scouts, but they'd be smart to closet themselves if they wish to participate in the community.

 

I know that it is not viewed that way now, and that is the problem. There is a point, its social stability.

I am a terrible person because I speak the truth? But that is what progressive leftists think, right is wrong, and wrong is right. Nothing new there, in fact that is exactly as it should be, But that does not mean I have to buy into it.

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I have it all. It is you who are startibng to get it, I was offering re-enforcement.

 

...to your last paragraph, you are exactly right.