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Brazil to loosen gun laws?

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Jestsayin, Jan 1, 2019.

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  1. Maccabee

    Maccabee Well-Known Member

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    They had their rights removed by due process of law.
     
    Maccabee, Jan 7, 2019
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    Which may include rights under the Second, which is why there is nothing in the Second about such.
     
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  3. Richard The Last

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    So you are in favor of gun control? Controlling who has access to guns? In other words you feel some forms of gun control are acceptable?
     
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    But not the highest murder rates.
     
    Richard The Last, Jan 7, 2019
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  5. Maccabee

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    You're wrong. While I can't find the study itself, I found a vudeo which talks about the study.

     
    Maccabee, Jan 7, 2019
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  6. Richard The Last

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    Which part of his post were you referring to?
     
    Richard The Last, Jan 7, 2019
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  7. Vegas giants

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    That gun homicides are low in states with high gun ownership
     
    Vegas giants, Jan 7, 2019
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    Nope sorry
     
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    If you never used a gun in a crime why can't you have a gun?
     
    Vegas giants, Jan 7, 2019
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    Not always the case. But you knew that.
    When one looks at stats they are all over the map.
     
    Richard The Last, Jan 7, 2019
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    Generally it is true with some exceptions
     
    Vegas giants, Jan 7, 2019
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  12. Richard The Last

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    I still disagree. Alaska has a 62% gun ownership rate and a 5.3/100K gun murder rate, Idaho has a 57% gun ownership rate but only 1.5/100K gun murder rate. Delaware has a 5% gun ownership rate and yet has a 5.5/100K gun death rate, Rhode Island has a 6% gun ownership rate and only .9/100K gun death rate. I am not seeing a pattern here. I don't feel the numbers support your claim.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state
     
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  13. Maccabee

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    In a word, yes. I have no problems with gun control so long it's by due process of law. If you have been shown beyond reasonable doubt that you are a danger to yourself or the public, your rights can be stripped.
     
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    No rebuttal, huh?
     
    Maccabee, Jan 7, 2019
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    If that crime was violent, you already shown lack of accountability and respecting other people's rights. You have shown to be a danger and a menace to society.
     
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    I have always been of the opinion that if "you are a danger to yourself or the public" you should be locked up. If dangerous persons are locked up then no need for gun control.
     
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    Then they should not be on the streets
     
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  18. Maccabee

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    Me too.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    So you would agree with me, if we lock up the bad guys we don't need gun control?
     
    Richard The Last, Jan 7, 2019
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    Well make up your mind. Are you saying everyone who commits a violent crime should get life in prison?
     
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    Or death in prison.
     
    Richard The Last, Jan 7, 2019
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    Ideally.
     
    Maccabee, Jan 7, 2019
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  24. Maccabee

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    Put it simply, if they're too dangerous to own a gun, they're too dangerous to walk the streets.
     
    Maccabee, Jan 7, 2019
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    No put it more simply. Should anyone convicted of a violent crime get a life sentence?
     
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