Breaking - Gunman opens fire during college event at California bar - At Least 12 Dead

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  1. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Guns have always been used in the United States for self defense, ever since the first settlers carried them to fight off raiding parties from native americans or other armed groups. To pretend otherwise is rewriting history.
     
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    He is the President and I know it is aggravating that the media continually points out Trump's lies but that would stop if he stopped lying.
     
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    There already is a back round check, for everyone, to buy a gun. Most of the mass shooters had passed these background checks. What more do you want? Do you really want those who buy guns to give up their medical records?
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We already have background checks.
     
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    Did it stop Obama from lying? You are asking a politician to stop lying, I mean do you seriously not see the absolute flaw in that statement?
     
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    America has an almost endless location of soft targets.
    One witness described the shooter as having a beard, sunglasses and a black ski hat.
     
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  7. Wildjoker5

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    White too? It seems to be strange that the race hasn't been identified yet, especially if he was white.
     
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  8. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Feinstein is a piece of ****. She says she thinks PTSD is new? from the Iraq War? God, she is dumb.
     
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    3-2-1...
    ....and blame Republicans.....sad.
     
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    Projection much? :roll:

    You are either clueless, or part of the problem. (Most likely both.)
     
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    Did you actually listen to the recording? Nowhere does it say anything about all vets being crazy. It does talk about restricting gun ownership to vets with PTSD. I guess your assumption is that all vets have PTSD which does seem to indicate you have a very low opinion of those who have defended our country.
     
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  13. Josh77

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    I was diagnosed with PTSD after my second deployment, then deployed 2 more times, and I own guns. Amazingly, I havnt gone out shooting everyone. PTSD does not turn you into a killer. The fact that you think it does shows how damned clueless you guys are about the issue, and reinforces in my mind that none of you should have any say at all in who should or should not be able to own firearms.

    Lots of my buddies have PTSD too, and none of them have shot up any bars.
     
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    All I was doing was proving that Wildjoker5 lied about Democrats saying that all vets were crazy. I may have missrepresented what Feinstein actually said since I was just listening to see if Wildjoker5 was telling the truth. You can listen to the clip and see what she actually said.
     
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    Here we go again 13 Americans ( most likely Americans) have died and what do we here from the pro Trumpeizda gang? Yes, you are correct they are making up crap about their Lying King getting blamed. No care , no concern expressed that just about two weeks after 11 American are shot dead in a Synagogue now this but it is the defense of the Lying King when there is NO ACCUSATION made that this one was his fault.

    Are we ever going to be Americans again or are we too far gone to far infested with Trumpeizdaism that we are no longer the decent human beings and good Americans anymore?
     
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    It seems to me you have a low opinion of those who have been diagnosed with PTSD.
     
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    A Year?!!! Two weeks ago 11 people were shot down in a Synagogue that is not half a year ago.
     
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    OMG, PTSD is a mental health issue. If you want to sparse over the word "crazy", then we are done.

    And don't try to assume what I mean, especially since you are talking to a 14 year disabled vet as it is. DiFi called vets unfit to have guns. Deny it if you want, I gave you audio. This argument is over.
     
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    Comparing Obama's record with Trumps over four thousand lies is just silly.
     
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    Has there been any studies or research done on the mindset of these killers? There are probably some mental disorders involved but also probably some common traits involved....not political.
     
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    A post full of hate and blame, complaining about hate and blame.
     
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    No you Posted the clip to prove that the Democrats said all vets are crazy. It didn't, so at this point your statement stands as a falsehood. And no she didn't say that all vets are unfit to have guns either. Trying to replace one of your lies with another lie isn't going to work.
     
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    Ok, if you think so. They are both liars, just because one you like and one you don't doesn't make it different. And my insurance rate has yet to be effected by a lie from Trump. My income or expenses have yet to be effected by Trump lie. And I don't know of anyone who has died and been covered up by a Trump lie.
     
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    Excellent post.
     
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    Usually they have all been linked to anti-psychotic drugs they were taking.
     

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