Breaking news !! - Muslim terror in London !!

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  1. allegoricalfact

    allegoricalfact Well-Known Member

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    I come from South London and though I haven't actually lived there for a long time family and friends still do and no one speaks of a Road Traffic Collision for starters. No way.
     
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    It's not for the lack of trying; idiot racists bent on revenge have been attacking Muslims frequently since the killing. Fascist, neo-Nazi gangsters like the so-called English Defence League have been instrumental in fomenting violence against Muslims.
     
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    I really think that sawing off a citizen's head on a London street is foment enough.
     
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    Really ? then why the Polish/Devon flags ?
    ..... ????? - Just curious
     
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    Very Good! :clapping:
     
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    This thread is for discussing something which actually happened.

    It is an apt term and not an insult. If MI5 had put on a show for some reason for Londoners, to be spread across the whole UK, even the whole world, then clearly they are being dishonest. They would be involved in conspiring to do something - presumably cause Muslim hatred. In conspiracies people are conspiring to create a reaction by pretending things are other than they are, which is why it is called a conspiracy theory. You believe that is what it is. Hence it should be taken to the conspiracy theory section and see what sort of attention it receives there. Here, in the thread of the happening it is getting a bit like trolling.

    On the contrary, you have received a great deal of attention. You are simply on the wrong thread and that is why people are reacting as they are. This is the thread to talk about the brutal killing of an off duty soldier a few days ago. You want to discuss that this never happened. The conspiracy theory section is the place to do that. There you will meet people who have done research on similar things and be able to discuss with them. You are simply off topic for this thread.
     
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    Can you say the same thing about Joshua or David?
     
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    Did his neighbours know that he once offered his wife to a Pharoah - pretended she was his sister, ? Did , his neighbours know that he seduced (raped) his wife's slave-maid servent ., and then callously ejected the poor pregnant girl (mother of Ishmael ) to wander in the desert. ?

    One can only speculate how many more of Papa Abe's misdeeds was left out of the story.

    LOL.
     
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    Apparently, the killers of Drummer Lee Rigby could, by law, face the death penalty.

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    A law passed in 1848 defines the separate offence of treason felony as proceeding ‘to levy war against the sovereign in order by force or constraint to compel her to change her measures or counsels, or in order to put any force or constraint upon or in order to intimidate or overawe both houses or either House of Parliament’.

    With this definition in mind, consider the words spoken by one of Drummer Lee Rigby’s assassins in Woolwich: ‘You people will never be safe. Remove your governments, they don’t care about you . . . get rid of them. Tell them to bring our troops back so all can live in peace. So leave our lands and we can all live in peace.'

    As they are Britons, Michael Adeboloja and Michael Adebowale could therefore face trial for treason for killing a British soldier. It was the murder of a man who was targeted precisely because he was a member of Her Majesty’s Armed Forces.

    His killers, and those who support them, regard what they did as an act of holy war, or jihad.

    This would mean that they are Britons waging war on other Britons, and on the British state.

    Such people are the self-appointed, and self-declared, enemies of the sovereign. They are levying war against her, hoping to force her to change her measures and counsel.

    Thus, in recognition of the enormity of their crime and in seeking to force the government of their own country to change its policies, they should be put on trial not just for murder, but for treason.

    And before the Left argue that the killer cannot be be given the death penalty because the death penalty for treason is in abeyance under the terms of the 1998 Human Rights Act, it can be reinstated ‘in time of war or of imminent threat of war’.

    Why Drummer Rigby's killers should be charged with treason: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...ys-killers-charged-treason.html#ixzz2UPhpbVPk
     
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    In your dreams!!

    The Daily Mail I ask you and yet another extremist writer.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Heffer

    That is what you hope for England. Wake up England!! Show UKIP the door.
     
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    This thread is about something that happened, I agree, you are absolutely sure of what did happen, I am not so sure of what did or did not happen.that is the only difference between us.

    I am getting attention because of what ? Anyone who disagrees with the group thinking may get attention, you really can ignore me .........ya never know I might go away.

    So I'm a Troll now for answering posts written to me?

    I pop into Conspiracy sometimes, it is full of shilly Trolls, one post by a person and two to six pages of posts by 'debunkers'. But I wouldn't take this or anything else there, this was a spontaneous occurrence as are all my posts,

    I react to others posts, once upon a time I did begin threads but I don't feel like it now a days .....no body has to answer me ...................no law ..............

    . . .
     
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    Can you point out the inaccuracies in the article? Or are you just waffling?

    And there's nothing "extremist" about the writer or the article (unless an "extremist" is someone who holds non-left-wing views, even if those non-left-wing views are shared by the majority of the people). I should think the vast majority of Britons would like Adeboloja and Adebowale given the death penalty (I think most Britons would like the death penalty to be reinstated). And what they did does, under the law, merit the death penalty.

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    Allegoricalfact there is a basics that seems plain. The soldier was run over and then mutilated. The men who did this then chatted to bystanders and asked them to take pictures and to phone the police. When the police arrived they moved towards them showing a gun. They were shot. They were taken to different hospitals and last I heard they were both recovering.


    That I think is roughly what is understood by everyone except you regardless of how they view the situation.

    You complained you were being ignored. I pointed out that was not the case.

    We are talking about disagreeing with reality. If you do not agree with the basics discussion is impossible.



    If you do not agree with the basics of the happening I cannot see how you have anything to offer except in the Conspiracy Theory section. It is within that, that I suggested you were trolling. This is a thread to discuss the incident, why it happened and repercussions. If you want to deny reality, then you have to do serious work studying and finding flaws and finding people who agree with you and presenting your evidence and managing to get someone to believe you. Otherwise you are just saying there is no reality and that is how you have sounded in this thread. It makes no difference what stance you come from, if what you say is not based on reality it has no meaning.

    Some people on this thread took time to show you how what you were imagining was not the truth but you would not believe them. According to you if you were not there you cannot know if it was true. That only presents your psychological orientation. Most of us will believe something particularly something which happened in broad daylight and was witnessed by so many. You cannot expect people to carry on not getting irritated if you insist that because you didn't see it, you cannot believe it happened. That is alright for you to believe if it makes you happy but there is nothing there to debate.
     
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    so what was in Princess Diana's coffin in the church then?

    it was something very heavy by the way those soldiers were struggling to carry it
     
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    I don't know Abu I just know they don't put the body in the coffin whilst it is being drawn through crowds. I have never really thought about what is in it ;-)
     
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    who told you the coffin isn't filled when it's going through crowds ? :confused:
     
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    I complained about being ignored?

    Our liberties will be curtailed even more, Wars and more Wars and hatred and real blood will be shed because of these psy-ops with ham actors. Our children should be playing together not fearing each other and playing outside not inside, through fear of the outside World which is by all that is holy theirs to explore.

    Propaganda is all that this was, nothing happened.
     
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    now I think I read somewhere back then that she asked in her will to be buried???
    I remember when they were talking about Dodi Al Fayad burial I think

    does anyone else remember that?

    that means Allegorical the family went against her wishes and I guess her religion :omg:

    no I think she is buried out in that lake.......................
     
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    Military, in the know, years and tears ago now. It use to be common knowledge though.
     
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    If guilty, I expect they will be hanged. Civil law doesn't apply to them and Military Law does. Killing and hacking up Drummer Rigby is the same as killing a Sea Lord or Field Marshall. Attacking a soldier is attacking the Crown. They might as well have sodomized the Queen and chopped her her head off.

    In attacking Drummer Rigby, they've attacked England. Remember the War of Jenkin's Ear.
     
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    I don't know Abu. It was said ..........but I can't say I know for sure. I also don't know that her bro would really care that much about what she felt.

    Dodi was dug up and his body moved wasn't it? What did they fear? His father is a monster and was very cruel to Dodi,.so say his friends.
     
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    the British don't hang people

    Here is the will of Diana and it says she wants to be buried not cremated

    http://www.livingtrustnetwork.com/e...ast-will-and-testament-of-princess-diana.html


    LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT

    of

    DIANA, PRINCESS OF WALES


    I DIANA PRINCESS OF WALES of Kensington Palace London W8 HEREBY REVOKE all former Wills and testamentary dispositions made by me AND DECLARE this to be my last Will which I make this First day Of June One thousand nine hundred and ninety three

    1 I APPOINT my mother THE HONOURABLE MRS FRANCES RUTH SHAND KYDD of Callinesh Isle of Seil Oban Scotland and COMMANDER PATRICK DESMOND CHRISTIAN JERMY JEPHSON of St James's Palace London SW1 to be the Executors and Trustees of this my Will

    2 I WISH to be buried
     
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    Don't be stupid .................. Our Hangman is dead too, didn't you hear.
     
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    it was buried according to Muslim law in public cemetery but then they had to move him to his fathers estate because of the public who would all be going there to view for years as this is against Islamic laws

    I mean we are not allowed to make a grave like a shrine
     
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    Yup, then if she was cremated it was against her wishes. But it was just a rumor at the time.
     
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