Breaking : Numerous people shot outside UK Parliament .....

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  1. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    There does seem to be a "crusade" against the BBC since Mr Trump (no respect implied) attacked it as a fake news outlet.
     
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    seems like everyone is ignoring the elephant in the room again. "Bombs over Bagdhad" oh but lets all point fingers at the mooslim lone wolf.
     
  3. PrincipleInvestment

    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    I know we can't solve the problem with money. We can't continue to erode our own freedoms either. Islam has had centuries to solve it's own problems from within. Compounding matters is the fact radicals eagerly await the apocalypse.
     
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    Hey Monte. Looks like you're not wasting any time getting into the debates. xD
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    of course ;)
     
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    Dropship Well-Known Member

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    Generally speaking, British "security" is a friggin joke, I won't post pics for security reasons, but some of our military installations and barracks etc haven't even got a main gate (you couldn't make it up) and a bomb truck could drive straight in.
    I've been telling them for years about it but they won't listen, for example below are a couple of replies I had fobbing me off (I've censored out the sensitive bits)-

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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like your Christian Zionists. Whatever could give them the idea that is on the way?
     
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    Dropship Well-Known Member

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    1- Assad is a good guy (don't swallow the Obama/Hillary "boogey man" propaganda) here he is goodnaturedly posing for selfies with his dishy wife in a Syrian Christian church..:)-
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    2- As for wiping out barbarians, we did it with the Nazis and Japs in WW2, so let's do it now with ISIS..:)
     
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    It's a shame we don't have Barry and Kerry around anymore to lecture us on how it has nothing to do with Islam and how Christians did this type of thing a thousand years ago. Those were the days.
     
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    If Assad raining down barrel bombs didn't convince them nothing will.
     
  11. Montegriffo

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    Yep, grabbed hold of it without even waiting for permission. LOL
     
  12. Montegriffo

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    1- Yep because barrel bombing your own people (non-combatants) is the action of a well balanced democratic leader.
    2- In a conventional war where the "barbarians" had the good grace to stand out in the open and let us shoot them.
     
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    1- I'm sure Assad doesn't barrel-bomb his friends..:)
    2- Only boots on the ground will root out the cancer of ISIS, I bet there isn't a manjack in our western military who isn't itching to get in there..:)

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    There is no dignity in being defenseless lying in a pool of your own blood on national TV.
     
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    His 20 year history of violence and conversion to a violent religion wasn't enough of a clue huh?
     
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    Did you forget the 600,000 of them that want Sharia.

    You guys are fooling yourselves with this "moderate" muslim thing. Muslims are not tolerant of other religions or western culture, except for a couple countries heavily influenced by Buddhism.
     
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    Calling him Mr. Whoever is apologism. Of course "the murdering" whatever would be preferable to deference and respect. It's not "nitpicking" to call comments like "oh but he's a man, so why not give him the respect of his male title?" for the BS they are. It's common sense - something you already well know.
     
  19. Montegriffo

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    Unless those 600,000 are actively seeking Sharia through violent actions I couldn't care less because they aren't going to get it. Unless you are talking about the heavily regulated and approved family law courts using Sharia which have no effect on the lives of anyone unless they volunteer to go before them.
    Your denial of the existence of moderate Muslims speaks volumes about your blinkered opinion but says nothing of the actual facts.
    Let me ask you a question about the 3,000,000 Muslims in the UK. How many of them are responsible for violent political attacks on Western culture and how many go about their daily business causing no harm to anyone?
     
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    Those are the 600k that are openly saying Sharia should replace your system of government. That doesn't include those sympathetic to the cause or those who are just not being honest.

    After the Paris attacks where did the attacker hide? In his Muslim enclave, where not a single one of them volunteered his location to the police.

    You see if a Muslim is forced to choose between another Muslim and a heretic, they're going to choose the Muslim every time, regardless of what they may have done.

    Islam is not just a religion, it is a way of life, an ideology, a form of government....Islam IS their lives.

    The "facts" are that Islam is the most violent group on this earth, containing people who are the most violent, most oppressive and most dismissive of human rights.

    It's just a matter of time.
     
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    No, it wasn't. He was a recent convert and his last conviction was in 2003, for possession of a knife. Islam is not a violent religion; a tiny minority of radical Muslims are. There are 2 billion Muslims in the world. I guess that, for you and all the other terrified Americans, each and every one of them is a lunatic jihadi. Build yourself a bunker.
     
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    Argue with Reuters, who's reporting he's racked up a "string of convictions", including looking into possible terror ties he was involved in.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-security-attacker-idUSKBN16U26E?il=0
     
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    No, I'm arguing with you. His 'string of convictions' ended in 2003. He was not in the spotlight of the security services as Theresa May made clear. It's very easy to be smart in retrospect.
     
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    So the Muslims who have joined the system of government and become Councillors,MPs and Mayors and the Muslims who go to the ballot boxes to vote (often for heretics) are trying to replace our systems of Government?

    You don't seem to understand how hiding works, it's when you conceal your whereabouts, particularly from those moderates who might reveal your hiding place to the police. The security services gain some of their best intel from Muslims within the community, information on radical preachers regularly comes from worshippers at the Mosques themselves.

    You are conflating being Muslim with being radically Islamic, that's like saying all Jews are Zionists or all Christians are pro-lifers who want to kill abortion doctors.

    The title of most violent group on Earth is a hotly contended one where all numbers of groups from the Israeli occupiers of Palestine to the USAF are in the running......
     
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    Yup, I've worked in a few of them, mainly training camps, where the armed guards at the gates only have blank rounds in their weapons. As with most cases with our inept "crisis management" it will probably take an incident before things are properly tightened up. However even these targets are not as soft as the opportunities for mowing down innocent pedestrians.
    Without some kind of strict martial law, which nobody wants, it is nearly impossible to eliminate terrorist attacks so a refusal to cower in fear while we go about our lives seems the best way forward.
    Keep calm and carry on.
     
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