Breaking- Trump to Iran, 52 strikes for 52 hostage in 1979

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  1. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "This government wants Perdicardis alive or Raisuli dead!"

    It worked, look it up.

    One could restate it, "This government want's Americans alive or Khamenei dead!"
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The minimum wage jobs at the same money they were earning 10 years ago, when that money's value has been cut 25 percent. And have lost overtime, sick pay, holiday pay....

    While Trump and his friends make double the money due to tax cuts, and if some some blacks can be hired at reasonable pay, they will pay higher taxes than billionaires do.
     
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  3. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    War? We stopped an active ongoing military mission against us. Period.
     
  4. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just stop. Unemployment is low, wages are rising.
     
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  5. Daniel Light

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    And the drum beats come from the Trump FanBoys for the Forever War ... throw American troops under the bus for a few extra polling points
    and to change the dialogue away from impeachment, I guess.

    Same excuses for war - different day.
     
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    Moonglow Well-Known Member

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    They can't be minorities in countries which have a majority of them.CNN is for folks like you so you have something to judge FOX over.
     
  7. Moonglow

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    Not in West Virginia..
     
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    I guess you think Obama had the right idea...
    Food Stamps for everyone.
     
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    We did? Who says? The Trump Administration? And you believe them???

    Haven't we seen this script before? Isn't this an awful lot like "Saddam is pursuing WMD's!!!"
     
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    nice little falsehood story... alas, it's far from any truth...

    repubs don't like nor want war, we do believe in standing up against bullying...

    at one time, democrats used to spout "stand up to bullying" and call cps/authorities/da's/what have you, they held countless campaigns against bullying, yet here we are, witnessing the left spouting off to protect bullies (aka terrorists)...

    defending terrorism is the sure fire way to lose all three branches of government during the upcoming election cycle...
     
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    And may I say it is a welcome contrast.
     
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    So foreigners will never be called minorities again until they come here. Good, I'm glad we cleared that up. And in case it was never mentioned, men are a minority in this country. Us guys are outnumbered by women by more than 5,000,000. Going forward, I would hope the left would refer to us as minorities because it's fitting, accurate and factual.

    While you focused on minorities, you drove right past the part where Kaepernick is referring to the world, as in abroad and using America's military for American imperialism in the non white world. He's not referring to this country, but he is referring to countries he will almost certainly never move to.
     
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  13. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Colon is no genius and his fifteen minutes of fame is about gone with the wind.
     
  15. Moonglow

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    What do you expect for a guy with lots of religion?
     
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    I'm still trying to figure out why everyone is in panic mode, as if there's absolutely no other possibility than going to war with Iran.

    I guess what I'm actually trying to figure out is how much of it is opportunistic anti-Trump rhetoric, and how much is just literal fear of what Iran will do.

    FWIW, I get the impression that the Iranian leadership is batshit crazy for sure, but stupid? No, I don't think they're stupid. I wager they come to the table.
     
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    You really should do more reading because it sounds like you are missing major pieces of information.

    Iran released a list of "targets" and has told Iraqi's to stay at least 1000 yards away from US military outposts.

    Trump does not desire war, but if Americans are harmed-he's not going to back down. This is a markedly different response than what you'd see from Obama or Carter.

    If Iran pushes this, its going to be very hard for the leadership to be able to claim any ability to engage the USA.

    It may be enough to destabilize the leadership endangering its rule in Iran.
     
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    I don't see them as a big bad bully. Sure, they can cause trouble, but they can never win on their own. The analogy posted was fairly poor.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Peace through strength-its still a thing.
     
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    History since 911 justified what pnac laid out and we have followed this scheme, with both parties supporting it.

    Both parties have plenty of pnac Neocons. And they wanted to take down Iraq, Libya, Syria and Iran. They also wanted a Space Force and trump gave them that along with increased military spending. You can still read the pnac scheme online.

    Your partisanship keeps you in the dark imo.

    The only reason unprincipled dems are dissing trump on this issue is pure politics and the election . They war monger just like the GOP does.

    Get the hell out of the ME and stop the need for constant war.

    We are told we must be there for national intetests. What national interests? No one ever lists them . For if so any IQ over 80 would see none of those intetests are the interests of 320 million average Americans .
     
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    It's been nothing new since the Assyrians...
     
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    Artificial. We can kill the fishing industry through regulations as well, logging too. Not a political comment, just fact.
     
  23. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not a single sourced poster.

    As to WMD's, yeah, brought to you by the makers of the Piss Dossier where fact is what we make it. Those "intelligence" types just don't stand up to transparency like they use to. But wait, there's more, "War Now", buy it today from MSM and Dem leadership!
     
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    no partisan on my part...

    agreed, lets end the middle east fiasco that's been tearing up the world for centuries (millennia) by nukin them all... begin with 'gazza'
     
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    Trump called off the drone downing retaliation mission at the last minute. He asked for the body count and the estimate was 150, so he cancelled the mission, feeling that 150 lives for an inanimate drone, although very expensive, was out of proportion.

    The Iranian upper echelon must have figured he was weak and panty waste (it's always better to be very aggressive than to be soft), and that they need not further worry about the big stick he carries.

    We can see now that Trump should have given the go on that mission, also.
     
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