Breaking- Trump to Iran, 52 strikes for 52 hostage in 1979

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  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nobody really cares about Germans airspace.
     
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    You actually did. Yoir aircraft had to fly all around Germany and France, prolonging its journey by almost 3 h..

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    The entire world sees that your allies leave you. And even Israel falls in your back and publish what you offer the Iranians.

    It also means you cant use Ramstein airbase regarding that.
     
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  3. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Get us all those documents asap, lefty.
     
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    Only 52 ?
    I think he forgot one Zero !
    520 will be better.
     
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    There is nothing to figure out because there is zero evidence proving that Iran was involved in an attack on the US embassy or that Iran posed an imminent threat to US personnel or property in the region. The congress needs to investigate what basis, if any, there was for Trump to launch this attack. And if it's discovered that Trump lied, which is entirely likely, he should be impeached again.
     
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    Trump announced on Twitter that he wants destroy iranian cultural sites, which is seen as a war crime under the geneva convention.

    18 U.S. Code § 2441.War crimes

    (a)Offense.—
    Whoever, whether inside or outside the United States, commits a war crime, in any of the circumstances described in subsection (b), shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both, and if death results to the victim, shall also be subject to the penalty of death.
    subsection (a) are that the person committing such war crime or the victim of such war crime is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 101 of the Immigration and Nationality Act).
    war crime” means any conduct—
    United States is a party;

    (2)
    prohibited by Article 23, 25, 27, or 28 of the Annex to the Hague Convention IV, Respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land, signed 18 October 1907;
     
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    You're the one claiming that Iran did this and Iran did that, so you're the one who needs to get the documents.

    And I'm a thousand times more conservative than you are. You support a big government coastal liberal for president. Trump supports gun control, he supports debt, he supports increasing taxes on trade, he supports nanny state policies, he supports universal healthcare. Trump is a Democrat pretending to be a Republican. You're the leftist son.
     
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    Not likely. Trump send the Quatari foreign minister to Tehran yesterday, offering Iran full drop of sanctions if they dont answer this assassination and even if they answer tehy should only target US troops and not sink an aircraft carrier.

    That was published by Israel btw.
     
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    Where was this reported?
     
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    Times of Israel:

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/...ops-instead-you-just-cant-make-this-stuff-up/

    Times of Israel/TEHRAN — Washington asked Tehran to respond “in proportion” after US forces killed top Iranian military commander Qasem Soleimani, the deputy commander of the Revolutionary Guards said Friday.
    The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps confirmed Soleimani, the commander of its Quds Force foreign operations arm, had been killed in a US air strike near Baghdad airport.

    After the attack, the Americans “resorted to diplomatic measures… on Friday morning,” Rear-Admiral Ali Fadavi told state television that night.

    They “even said that if you want to get revenge, get revenge in proportion to what we did,” he said, quoted on the broadcaster’s website.
     
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    Lol ok. Its a mystery where this terrorist freak was from.

    We didn't watch his daughter ask for blood on his behalf today in Tehran.

    Shits mysterious when you watch ABC I guess.
     
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    It’s All True, Trump isn’t crazy, Join his army and slaughter America’s tens of millions of cannibals


    Sorry Sobo, I don't think that I'm going to be relying on any website that spouts idiocy like the above.
     
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    How would you know?

    Do you have a direct line of communication to the Presidential Commissions and Intel Agencies who laboriously gather and sift through information for weeks on end before decisions are made on their viability and long before actioning I assume? A bat phone to the White House perhaps?

    I didn't realise you were so important. *coughs*
     
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    It works. Look how scared you are. Imagine how scared the Iranians are.
     
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    They arent scared. They are calm. You know no iranians. I do.

    It appears from whats going on right now that its your regime that acts scared. It sends qatari foreign minister as negotiator, promising Iran to drop all sanctions if they dont respond to this and even go so far, that if tey respond it should be proportionate.
     
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    30 years ago Iran had a war with Iraq. A MILLION Iranian civilians and troops were killed and they never surrendered.

    There is no doubt that the USA could do enormous damage to Iran. But the Iranians could cause plenty of damage to the USA.

    The Vietnamese, the Koreans, Iraqis, and others made the USA to give up. Is Trump and the Republicans have the ability to win with Iran?

    There is nothing in the whiny, venal, BS, cowardish we see and hear from Trump and this current crop of loser Republicans says Iran will defeat Iran either.
     
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    So you have no proof that Soleimani was plotting an imminent attack on US personnel or property in the region. Yeah, didn't think so.
     
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    Would those be the same intelligence agencies that said Saddam had weapons of mass destruction? Do tell.

    Because if you operate under the assumption that the US government is lying, you will be right 99% of the time.

    And on the exceedingly rare occasion the government tells the truth, it's in service of some other, bigger lie.

    At this point, there is never a reason to believe anything the government says without ample proof to back it up.

    So do you have the proof? Does anyone here have it? Until I see it, I am going to operate under the very reasonable assumption that it doesn't exist.
     
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    Nothing I said requires proof. I asked if you had a bat phone. You however are making rash assertions about something you know nothing about.
     
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    Trump is the one making rash assertions. I'm merely pointing out the fact that he hasn't produced one shred of evidence in support of those assertions. So until he produces the evidence, I'll just assume he's lying. And given his history, and the history of politicians in general, it's a perfectly reasonable assumption to make.
     
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    Have you ever considered that it's too soon to release intel to the plebs? Maybe you should just calm down and wait until the rest unfolds.
     
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    I doubt that. There has not been one instance where "evidence" made any difference in how a lefty feels about Trump.
     
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    What?

    Scared to get hit? It's what happens when you fight. Sit down.

    You're revisionist view of history is comical.
     
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    Have you ever considered that Trump is just a liar?

    Yeah, let's put our faith in government and hope everything turns out for the best. That's the American way.
     
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    You're way more of a lefty than I am.
     

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