Britain, France and Germany blame Iran for attack on Saudi oil fields

You didn't know that KSA was our staunch ally against the Soviets all thru the Cold War?

 

capitalism | Definition, History, & Facts | Britannica.com
https://www.britannica.com/topic/capitalism
Sep 03, 2019 · Capitalism, also called free market economy or free enterprise economy, economic system, dominant in the Western world since the breakup of feudalism, in which most means of production are privately owned and production is guided and income distributed largely through the operation of markets. A brief treatment of capitalism follows.

 

Except of course using propaganda to decide what capitalism is does not make it capitalism, not least when it does not even talk about money.

Capitalism has destroyed America's democracy and is likely to see the US as the country which destroys the world. For some people we could of course say 'freedom to hate' though I am not sure philosophy would agree hating was a freedom. Wow 1984 sure got to America.

 

I have to think now Margot he is having us on. He could possibly just be a troll.

 

Yep… He should know what capitalism is at his age.

 

It is a pretty damning tale of American education. I thought it was a unique mistake but it appears even telling him reality does not change that....but this is what the new extreme right are like...they do not believe anything unless one of their idols says it.

P.S How do you know his age?

 

So was Hitler, until he made "The Pact", and double-crossed and backstabbed. No honor among thieves, right?

 

Love the Paine quote. The definition lists attributes and characteristics, but not the fundamentals of genus and species. It is accurate in the same sense as describing a human being as a biped that talks is accurate, but of attributes, not essentials.

 

LOLOL.. KSA is still a staunch ally no matter who the president is.

 

Ah, excuse me, America was created as a republic with a capitalist economic system. As for a democracy...? It's never good to leave one's life and loves up to majority opinion--better to do that for yourself. As for freedom to hate--as emotions are auto-physiological responses to one's values, then, of course, one has the right to hate. For example, if you see a woman hung by men for allowing herself to be raped, and you value that which has an unlimited capacity for creativity, joy, and pleasure, women, you hate the frigging basterds that hung her. Logic. Right? However, when it comes to emotions, you don't really "choose to", you just do. Though it is true on very deep and intellectual sense, you do. They're more of a payoff for choosing wisely, and a warning for choosing poorly.

 

I wouldn't turn my back on him. (As an aside: Capitalism is not consumption as much as it is production--spending money doesn't make you a capitalist, creating value does.)

 

Profile says he's a 67 year old male... So expect him to double down.

 

Why do you suppose KSA has the world's largest, most well integrated oil company.. and it directly feeds downstream manufacturing.

 

Some one may be being trolled, but I assure you, its neither you nor Alexa. Perhaps the other way?
Oxford Dictionary:

capitalism
[ˈkapədlˌizəm]
NOUN

1. an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
   
2. "an era of free-market capitalism" · "private ownership is a key feature of capitalism"
   synonyms:
   private enterprise · free enterprise · private ownership · privatized industries · the free market · individualism · laissez-faire
   antonyms:
   communism

 

Surprisingly, Granville Phillips, 12 years in Saudi Arabia, on Quoro agrees with you:

"Saudi Arabia is mainly a market or capitalist economy with a monarchial political system." (There's a contradiction if I ever so one--do as you please as long as Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud oks it. ) https://www.quora.com/How-is-Saudi-Arabia-a-command-economy

however, I found the comment below on this assertion far more illuminating, and completely accurate.

"The government commands the economy by issuing licenses to chosen Saudi individuals to perform narrowly defined services (construction, consulting, retail, . . . ). Individuals close to the royal family are given preference. Unfortunately, licenses can be revoked at any time. This hinders, almost stops, private investment." https://www.quora.com/How-is-Saudi-Arabia-a-command-economy

Paying lip service to free markets while controlling who can or cannot access those markets, and what or what not can be sold or bought is not capitalism, no matter how much one tries to pretend otherwise.

For example, putting on a Patriots uniform with the number 12 doesn't make one Tom Brady, let alone a football player.

Saudi Arabia is far closer to Hitler's fascism than he is to Adam Smith's capitalism.

You know, you can fool some of the people some of the time and all of the fools all of the time, but you can never defeat the honest mind--reality is his ally, not his enemy.

 

When I can hawk Atlas Shrugged on any street in Riyadh with the help of a 22-year-old dark-haired emerald-green-eyed woman wearing "an itsy bitsy teenie weenie yellow polka-dot bikini" blowing kisses to passersby, I'll know that Saudi Arabia has become capitalist. Until then...? Well, you already know my thoughts on the matter. No need to bring it up again and fret the willingly blind.

 

Nope.. Hitler used slave labor..

 

Good grief I always wore a bikini to the beach in Arabia.

 

There appears to be a discrepancy", or someone thinks half-truths are as good as the truth, they would be if they weren't half-lies. As in, wearing one in Arabia is not the same as wearing one in Saudi Arabia.



Bill Crean, lived in Saudi Arabia (1990-2015)
Updated Aug 10, 2017


"Saudi women would not dream of doing such a thing. They spend their whole lives with her face covered and would not feel comfortable to walk about in public with their faces exposed. A foreign non-Muslim woman would be extremely stupid to wear a bikini on a public beach. Maybe in an international hotel with a private beach, non-Muslim women could wear a bikini and get away with it.

Saudi women, who have spent some years abroad, would be less fussy about the face covering, but as soon as the plane lands in Saudi Arabia on goes the face cover without fail.

I have heard some horror stories, which may not be true, because I have only heard them as hearsay: an ill informed foreign lady wore a bikini in public and a group of Saudi youths gang raped her. The police were called but no charges were made on the gang and the woman was immediately deported and her passport stamped, by the authorities, as “prostitute”--https://www.quora.com/Can-a-woman-w...o-be-kept-in-mind-while-visiting-it-for-women

Although it is true that the Prince, after murdering an outspoken critic of his in a Turkish embassy, is trying to modernize Saudi Arabia, I conclude its mere window dressing to cloud the eyes of West while they funnel money and weapons from America into terrorism and war against the Shites. But hell, I hope they both, the Saudis and the Ayatollahs, put their hands around each other's throats and strangled each other into history.

But hell, you keep preaching--it's your life to waste, not mine.

 

I doubt he knows any Saudi women. Since I am a woman I had more freedom to interact with men and women. The women in Jedda don't cover their faces.. Women in Riyadh of a certain age don't either. Foreign women don't at all.

One of the reporters who followed me around with her camera crew didn't cover her hair or face. Pretty young Saudi woman educated in the US and Switzerland..

There was a time after the Iranian Revolution where KSA took a giant step backwards. and was more strict.. I went back for two weeks in 2000 and the Crown Prince and Salman sent instructions that we shouldn't wear an Abaya or headscarf. Currently, they are ramping up tourism and foreign women don't have to cover up.

The Shia in KSA are pretty successful. They work in the oil business and dominate the merchant class in the Eastern Province.

 

Saudi Arabia an oasis of liberty. Freedom of thought, unfettered and unbridled individualism. Can’t wait to go and open open a book store and sell Atlas Shrugged, The Satanic Verses, Mohammed’s Picture Book, and The Rights of Man. I’ll make a million. Oh wait, I’ll need the Kings permission. Well, it was a pleasant dream.

 

There are a few truly remarkable civilizations in history still around. One of them is western civilization, which despite its newest wave of barbarians threatening everything about its best ideals within and without, is nonetheless a profound civilization that has produced profound contributions to human history. Another one is Iranian civilization, which while not ascendant in the past few centuries, is undergoing its own renaissance again and is still among the most enduring, beautiful, and meaningful civilizations mankind has ever known. I am less expert on the civilization of the far east, namely China although (unlike those who opine on Iran without having a clue), I have at least visited the place and know that is also a genuine civilization of its own.

I like to live in a world where all these civilizations thrive and allow their best to show within them each. To have the chance to visit all of them, to enjoy the fruits of each, depending on my mood and what I am looking for at any given time. But there have always been barbarians and there will always be barbarians I suppose. Some of them ignorant to the extreme, using concepts they picked up from one of the civilizations they want to vanquish to claim the banner of 'truth' and 'justice' in a fight between 'evil and good'. Others, brain washed by hacks and hooligans who have tried desperately to paint a view of reality about Iran that simply doesn't exit. There, of course, those who have actually seen IRAN and know the truth. While I have no hope that in this world dominated by lies and propaganda, the truth will prevail, I hope it does.

 

I seem to remember from a recent genetics program I watched that Western Europe DNA stems from Iran (although prior to that it is now believed that American Indians lived here, particularly France for some time - even after modern day French people arrived and mixed DNA.)

 

I don't know about DNA, although a recently published genome study of various ethnic groups finds Iran more heterogeneous than previously assumed. Nothing in this recent report (first comprehensive one on Iran) actually surprised me, however, as what is a 'racial concept' in the West is something that in practically every Iranian family you can find in its varieties. In Iran, in the same family, often even among siblings and certainly cousins and more distant relatives, you will find one who will be "sefid" (white), another "sabzeh" ("greenish", meaning olive") and others in between "gandomi" (or "wheatish"). Generally speaking, however, the overwhelming majority of the Iranian population can be clustered together genetically as part of the "Central Iranian Cluster". The population in the overall much less densely populated south -- in the southwest (many Arabs), the south (a mixture of Arabs, Indians, and Africans with Persians) and the Southeast (large admixture of pre-Iranian Dravidian populations with Iranian influences) -- fall outside the this Central Iranian Cluster.
https://www.technologynetworks.com/...ans-population-is-highly-heterogeneous-324374

 

I would need to watch the program again but this was talking more about tens of thousands of years ago when we were still mating with Neanderthals. The American Indians who found themselves in Western Europe before the arrival of modern Western Europeans were of course of East Asia descent. Also being white is only about 5,000 years old.