Burger flippers demanding $15/hr

You don't think that 1 in 5 children being raised up in poverty in a country that is among the richest of the world is so wrong that something should be done about it?


Good lord. The lack of empathy is insane.

 

Don't worry these jobs won't be around for much longer. Like the bank teller and check out clerks at lowes. Gone the way of the news paper.
Now you want to limits on how much one should make. Tell me is there a limit on how much obama should raise taxes on the middle class? So far he just keep hiking the middle class taxes upward.

 

Unions often push this idiocy because some union contracts are based on minimum wage such as journeymen get 3X minimum wage etc

that is why the MW movement is generally funded by and run by people who are making more than MW

 

Fast food companies hire people because they need the labor. They have no social responsibility aside from safe working conditions, a fair wage and good treatment. It is the worker's responsibility to better himself by training for a better job or by working up the chain of command. Of course, serving burgers is a dead end job, but becoming a manager or even an owner is how one progresses. You neglect personal responsibility, notme.

As I wrote, a company needs to make a profit to exist. That is basic economics taught in high school econ classes. Moreover, a company like McDonalds owns some of its restaurants, but the majority are privately owned francises. Most operate on narrow profit margins. When expenses rise, they either cut costs or they raise prices. The market will not allow for prices which rise too high to let a company survive. Again, that is basic economics not necessarily related to a national income. The rule has a profound effect on private businesses.These rules are valid and relatively inflexible. I own a farm which follows the same rules.

Fast food companies are experimenting with automated restaurants, so it is possible that some day workers might price themselves out of a job. Maybe a CEO and his staff are paid too much money, but it is their right to charge what the company will bare. Some one who works for such a company can work up the chain of command or train to work for another business.

 

We can't blame the burger flippers. This has been coming for a LONG time.
Just another symptom of a society losing it's way. Of course they want more. But as usual they want it because they feel ENTITLED.
Give them $15 and they'll want $20. Give them $20 they'll want $40. It will never end because it's based on an unrealistic premise.

And why are so many lefties all against CEO's making a few million for making very difficult decisions and having the ability to run
corporations that employee sometimes thousands of people ........yet I don't hear those same people complaining about Mike Tyson making $400 million for what? Fighting? Or Jay Zee and Beyonce making several hundred million for what...singing and thuggin? Or LeBron James making $100,000,000 in 5 years for playing basketball while tens of millions of American children do without in poor urban communities. Nope. No complaints from the left at all there.

That's because this whole thing is about one thing ....ENTITLEMENTS. (and union power)

What's it gonna take before people on the right wise up and realize that entitlement mentality isn't gonna stop until they're demanding you work only to provide THEM with more entitlements.....

OH WAIT!!!!

 

I don't think your clichés can fix anything.

Liberals have created this problem through their policies and then they blame the people who opposed them for their failures. They create problems then expect others to fix them, but they oppose the methods needed to fix their mistakes. Liberals have no moral compass. They have no conscious.

They are mean, elitist and just plan nasty

 

are you really blaming the right for creating this entitlement mentality?

 

why should I or anyone care about how much any private citizen earns as an income as long as it's legal?

 

Yeah. but exploitation of American citizens working a honest days will remain.

 

Not at all. The left created this imo. But the right needs to wake up and realize that we collectively have to stop it.

 

And that is my point. Those on the left complaining that CEO's make too much and should share their income or take less or distribute it to others is ill founded.

 

The only cliche there is, is you thinking Liberals this and democrats that.
The issue remains that 1 in 5 children live in poverty while the country is among the richest of the world. That number is alarmingly high. And this has to do with the terrible pay of way too many jobs. Since there is plenty of money, this means this is not being distributed enough among the population.

My moral compass a says 1 in 5 children living in poverty is terrible. And something must be done about it to decrease that number. And you're arguing against me as if this if fine or something. So your moral compass is broke.

 

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When did I ever say it's fine. I've said that the ideology that you live by created this problem and people like you fight every effort to correct it.

You caused the problems then fight to prevent implementing the solution.

Liberalism is an obscenity.

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All you do is support creating a problem, then complain and blame

 

You sound mean. Celine Dion wants us to "let them touch these things." Why don't you?

 

No they just eventually get fired.

 

cause I am realistic....

 

I worked many years as a maintenance manager making 12 to 15 dollars an hour doing jobs that were nasty and sometimes dangerous. Why any one flipping a frigging burger would think they deserve 15 dollars an hours is beyond me and also insulting! If you want fifteen dollars and hour then work for it, educate yourself so you can get a better job!

 

I don't want to outlaw anything; where did you get that idea? What I want to see is a decent living wage for everyone who is contributing to society. To suggest that someone doing a menial job is less worthy of it than anyone else is divisive and ultimately self-serving, and typical of parsimonious, buttock-clenching conservatism.

 

What right do you have to the 'property' (wages) that you are being paid, and why would you consider yourself more worthy of someone else's 'property' than a burger flipper? Because...

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No; what is obscene is the 'I got mine, screw you' mentality of conservatism.

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What's ill-founded about demanding that a CEO who has failed either return their bonus or give it to someone more deserving? On the other hand...http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/16/dan-price-seattle-boss-shares-dosh

 

Utter selfishness and lack of care about others becomes you both.

For me it is the least admirable quality of many Americans and Europeans today, whose only creed is the ever mewling: me, me, me ---- and which speaks of a sterile, negative and desolate personality.

It is the driving force behind our fragmenting world today.

 

This is both bad math and false assumption.

The owners of McDonalds, whether its the corporation or franchise owners, can increase the wages without raising prices. There is more than ample "profit margin" included in the price of the products already.

Even if all of the increase is offset by an increase in the price of the product it only represents a fractional increase in the product cost. For mathmatical purposes I'll use some "assumptions" for calculation purposes.

The cost of labor across the board for enterprises is typically between 20%-30% of sales and so I'll use 25% for calculation purposes. I will also assume an increase from $10/hr to $15/hr as the median increase in the labor costs. That's a whopping 50% increase in compensation. Because wages only account for 25% of sales we need to divide that 50% by 4 and the result is 12.5%. If all of this increase in wages is accounted for in the price of a hamburger that current costs a dollar then the increase in price for a 100% offset is only 12.5 cents so the hamburger would only cost $1.13 cents as opposed to $1.

That increase in compensation, if applied across the board to all enterprises, would probably result in a reduction of at least $40 billion in SNAP benefits paid for by taxation.

Would you rather pay 13 cents more for a hamburger or pay $40 billion plus in SNAP benefits?

 

None. I don't have the right to anyone else's property.

I don't consider myself more worthy.

 

I find this conservative way of thinking strange.

First off, you don't want anyone to live on any sort of social safety net, no food stamps, no welfare, nada. You don't want your taxes going to pay for someone else in your own country to be able to survive.

But then, you don't want private industry to have to bear the burden of actually paying people enough so that they won't qualify for the above social safety nets.

Isn't it logical to pay a person for their time, enough so that they can live without having to rely on government to subsidize their existence? Furthermore, isn't it logical that if a person makes enough to not only be self sufficient, but also be able to participate in this economy, that benefits the economy, and thus creates more opportunities for larger profits for the business owner?

It's a proven fact that trickle down economics simply does not work, rich people's bank accounts do not magically fill up to overflowing. It just doesn't work that way, so therefore, if everyone has the opportunity to participate in the economy instead of just surviving in it, it creates more opportunities for the wealthiest to earn more, it also gives the poorest the incentive and means to better themselves, and improve their socioeconomic status.

Paying people enough to not only live, but actually contribute to the economy is the best way to grow the middle class, improve the economy, and reduce the need for people to be on any type of welfare program.

 

I'm not a conservative, but I oppose both confiscation/redistribution and wage/price controls. Both are violations of liberty and property.