Busting the Myth of Separation of Church and State

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The function of a corporation is irrelevant to what it is, it's still a paper fiction, that's the ONLY way I figure it and that's exactly what it is. Any qualified person can create a corporation .... via paper (metaphorically speaking), that's how it always worked and that's how it will always work. Biological reproduction has never given birth to a corporation that I'm aware of. Human beings operate a corporation, it doesn't work by itself last I checked. I hope you didn't hurt yourself banging on.

Sorry to disappoint you but it's still a paper fiction. I've worked for many of these for over 50 years. I've even created a few of them ... with paper, imagine that! If I didn't understand what a corporation is in all that time it would be really hysterical since I made a living from them.

At the end of the day, if you believe a corporation is not a paper fiction, it's quite ok with me. I understand all sorts of people believe all sorts of things, not my concern unless it affects me and my loved ones. You don't fall into that category as far as I can tell.

 

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But back to the subject, authority (SCOTUS in this case) comes up in with a ruling (Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, No. 08-205, 558 U.S. 310 (2010)) that's so half-baked as to leave the majority of the population <Mod Edit> stunned <Mod Edit>

 

That isn't what they are doing. They are forbidding anything pertaining of religion being done on government property,which includes city, county, schools, cemeteries and etc.

 

The hidden issue is the secrecy that the church control of society which allows governmental decision making avoiding psychology examining the potentials of secrecy by abuses of the human unconscious mind.. This enables the secret government.

 

Where are they prohibiting "anything pertaining of religion"?

 

Sigh. I think someone needs a refresher in American History 101. Before the Declaration of Independence and the Articles of Confederation, the entities in North America were either colonies or provinces of France, Spain, Britain, Russian, Sweden, or the Netherlands.

Each British colony had a paid colonial agent in London to represent its interests.

The three forms of colonial government in 1776 were provincial (royal colony), proprietary, and charter. These governments were all subordinate to the monarch in London, with no explicit relationship with the British Parliament. Beginning late in the 17th century, the administration of all British colonies was overseen by the Board of Trade in London.

There were NO "countries" in North America!!!!!

 

Suspending a coach because he prayed on the 50 yard line by himself. Cut the mikes off two valedictorians who mentioned God in their commencement speech. cancelled any religious songs at a Christmas concert at school and this

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Could you imagine going to jail for your faith? A recent report warns that it could happen.

CBN News investigated the growing wave of hostility to Christianity in America that's led to hundreds of court cases.

No Religion Allowed

Angela Hildenbrand faced the very real possibility of going to jail for her faith. The trouble began when a federal judge ruled that no one at her Texas high school could pray or even use words like "prayer" or "amen" during the 2011 graduation ceremonies.

As class valedictorian, Hildenbrand felt God deserved the praise, even if it meant jail for her.

"I was definitely preparing myself to have to make that sort of tough decision and mentally prepare myself for what well could be coming next," she told CBN News.

Hildenbrand's case is just one of more than 640 cases of religious hostility cited in a new report by the Liberty Institute. General Counsel Jeff Mateer, who takes on many of these cases, helped put the survey together.

"The atheists and the secularists are well-organized and they're well-funded," the Liberty Institute attorney told CBN News.

"The rate of hostility to people of faith is overwhelming," he said. "It's increasing. Every day, we're getting calls."

One call involved the Veterans Administration demanding to preview Scott Rainey's prayer for a Memorial Day ceremony at Houston National Cemetery.

They told Rainey, who pastors the Living Word Church of the Nazarene in Houston, he couldn't pray "in Jesus' name."

"I have never said a prayer in my life where I didn't end it saying, 'In the name of Jesus Christ I pray, amen,'" Pastor Rainey said.

Contending for the Faith

Mateer is also working to save a veterans' memorial cross in San Diego, one of several cases that could have serious national consequences if courts order their removal.

"Are we going to bulldoze all those crosses?" Mateer asked. "We're going to sandblast God from the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier?"

But Mateer said the good news is, when believers fight back, they usually win.

"You need to stand up and fight," he said. "And that's exactly what Angela did."

Just one day before Hildenbrand's graduation, an appeals court ruled she could pray and say whatever she wanted.

"I thank You for Your great love for us and for our great nation, where we are free," she prayed at her graduation. "And it's in Jesus' name I pray, amen."

Courts eventually ruled that Pastor Rainey, and all veterans at burials, are allowed to freely express their faith.

But there is an across-the-board assault of religious hostility, and Americans' religious liberty hangs in the balance.

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2012/...-anti-faith-sentiment-sweeps-us/?mobile=false

 

The link didn't work, so I had to paste it into google

The claims from Representative John Culberson involving the Virginia cemetery are false http://www.politifact.com/texas/sta...rica-says-houston-national-cemetery-preventi/

He even admits in the Fox article that he never asked the family of the soldier if the cemetery withheld the use of the word "god" against their wishes.


As for the coach who got in trouble for praying by himself, I would need to see the story to judge it properly, but I'm not going to deny that sometimes certain school districts overstep their boundaries

 

What is the right doing in Alabama?

 

if an event says your not allowed to do something and you insist, you will be asked to leave, if you do not, it's trespassing

it's not your religion, same would be true if they were up their praising FSM.... only them it would be Christians complaining

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Once we won the war all the colonies became independent nations. That is American history 101

 

Is there something you simply cannot comprehend about the structure of this nation?

Once we won the war - under the direction of The Continental Congress which was a congregation of STATES - we became a representative republic with individual states bound together to protect one another,.

 

So in your opinion, do you think its a good idea for government to establish a religion in a nation of free men?

 

The point is, do they have the right to stop it? According to the First Amendment, no.

 

yes they do, can you go into a court room and blab about whatever you want, no.... same with schools, a kid can not blab during a school event or in the classroom about religion, they would be asked to leave

otherwise everyone would be allowed to preach their views in a classwork or school event as you could not stop anyone from taking the stage, or standing in front of the class, ect....

Scientology could go to every classroom and exercise their freedom of speech, Muslims, Mormons, Christians, ect.... could storm schools to do the same

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The right stops social issues all the time, for purely religious reasons. And, alleged conservatives, merely maintain the status quo or have to let any other faith based group have equal access.

 

No we became a confederation of states. We were no more a nation than the EU is. Thats why they wrote the constitution. We started out as the united States of America not the United States of America. Most of the power lay in the states even after the constitution.

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In reality, church and government work together to gain better control of the masses. It is only separate on written material. It doesn't even matter what religion it is since all religions attempt to control the behavior of its followers. This makes them all sheep which is an ideal environment for government to further its agenda of control of the people.

 

Alabama.

 

Name one thing the right has stopped or tried to stop on strictly religious grounds lately.

 

same sex marriage

 

In Alabama?

 

I oppose it and it has 0 to do with religion

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Like i said they founders wanted a religious peoples because they are more easily governed. They imagine theres this mythical being watching over their shoulder all the time

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