By what means, do you KNOW the answer to that age old question?

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  1. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Good that you think about this.

    You remember what actually can be classified as experiences when your Conscious mind was in the State of your Libido, say when eating a great meal, or perhaps some memory of a terrific sexual experience.
    You also might have pleasant experiences which you can almost relive, all items stored by your Id, i.e.; the Pleasure Principle.

    n other words, memories are things you did not forget while you were in one of the eight different states-of-mind.

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    Copenhagen Interpretation is a science evidence for an Observer who Created the whole Universe.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Einstein said he believed in the god Reality, though.
     
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    Yes, Einstein believed in Spinoza's God.
     
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    did they produce scientific proof that GODS exist?
     
  5. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    Quantum Mechanics shows us the Time is not Linear but instead concurrent.

    Thus beginning, middle and end are all the same.

    In a Multiversal System all Time Lines exists at the same time.

    AboveAlpha
     
  6. Incorporeal

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    Then there would be no physical change in anything... not even matter changing to energy or vice versa.
     
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    For those who do not know.

    The EXACT same amount of Quantum Particle/Wave Forms of Energy that were ejected out of the White Hole Singularity which we call THE BIG BANG....also exist now....a Billion years from now....and the exact same amount will exist when this Universal Linear Time Line ends.

    As these Quantum Particle/Wave Forms of Energy comprise the less than 4% of our Entire Universe which is over 96% Comprised of Dark Energy and Dark Matter....that less than 4% till exists as it always has existed just arranged and grouped differently via Quantum Evolution.

    You cannot understand what I am talking about because it is not something the Human Mind can visualize or understand without the Math.

    We perceive the passage of Time as having a Past, Present and Future but in reality all infinite in number moments of Time are running concurrently.

    As an example of something that the Human Mind cannot visualize...think about a 5 Dimensional Object.

    Now our Space-Time Reality exists at a MINIMUM of 10-D and is most likely 11-D or 26-D....but when a peron looks at an object they can only perceive the object in 3-D with the 4th Dimensional State being Time Passage.

    But try to imagine a 4-D Object with a 5th Dimensional State for Time Passage.

    A person can't visualize it.

    Oh...all sorts of representations can be made but a person will never be able to visualize this but they can understand it with the Math.

    Same thing with with trying to understand Time is actually Space-Time and it exists concurrently.

    AboveAlpha
     
  8. Incorporeal

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    Praise be the math. Math is also a construct of the human mind; a constructed representation [symbols] . Please show me a "2" that can be found in nature that has not been the product of manipulation by mankind, nor an image that is privately interpreted as being a "2".
     
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    One of the best cases for the existence of intelligent life in truly fundamental energy is the evidence that there is intelligent and emotional life in fifth, sixth, seventh and eighth dimensional space time.......(and by implication in ninth..... since George Ritchie was observing what sure appears to be four higher energetic levels of life...… above our fourth dimension).

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/george-ritchie.html
    Dr. George Ritchie's Near-Death Experience

    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The evidence that indicates that time in non-linear.......... and yet produces widely varying outcomes......… indicates the existence of intelligences that want to see us humans free to make better choices than we did in what might have been a 'previous' time line???????

    http://www.politicalforum.com/humor...2000-election-but-negates-global-dimming.html

    ......(post #7).....Could a win by Mr. Al Gore in 2000 have led to America being 15% submerged under the oceans by January 1, 2013?

    Time does look like a menorah....... or tree with branches and roots... … and is not confined to being a straight line...…

    In theory....... Mr. Gore's policy could have ended up greatly decreasing the Global Dimming Effect..... at the same time that it might do little to reduce a general Global Warming trend.... which could lead to rapid warming.....and of course increased cracking and sliding on the land based Greenland Ice Pack.... the world's glaciers and the outer regions of Antarctica......

    Prime Minister Stephen Harper and President Bush may have deliberately allowed somewhat bad policy to continue...… because they probably had been told that the factors that increase Global Dimming..... do tend to mask Global Warming.... .which could mean within five decades we may know that that they may have had a basically good idea..... in comparison to worst possible alternative.....??????!!!

    http://www.baproducts.com/chetmap.htm

    Dr Chet Snow's Earth Change Map

     
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    Well....a Dimension is a term of Geometry....it is not a Universal Reality.

    AboveAlpha.....p.s...Mathematics is Universal and symbols to represent a quantity can be anything and exist in different Base Systems.

    Human's have 10 Digits on both hands thus we use a Base 10 System.

    But if we had 12 digits...we would use a base 12 system.

    Thus a base 12 system as example...1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,@,&,10.

    In a base 12 system 10 x 10 = 100. 10=a base 10"s...12. 100 = a base 10's 144.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    You may find it rather intriguing that during her NDE Lynnclaire Dennis was shown that absolutely everything.......... relates back to math?!

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/lynnclaire-dennis.html

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    Well what about the binary numeral system. Surely that quantum computer you speak about uses the binary numeral system, doesn't it?
     
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    Why? He's only talking about time.
     
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    No! He was responding to CD who was talking about 'reality'. 'reality' is not restricted to 'time' alone.
     
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    I was not expecting the creed names associated with religious differences to correspond to tribal origins.
     
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    'll broaden this a bit. I think we can 'know' what our senses cannot delineate. I think we can know that gases exist without seeing hearing smelling or felling them. I think we can 'know' what science has established, even if our independent sensory capacity cannot establish. I do agree that God does not fall in that category either, so I am not helping in the theism debate.
     
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    According to Stephen Hawking, while there is no way of using science to disprove God's existance, it does prove that God is unneeded. The laws of nature existed before the big bang, and most likely caused it. So, while there could be a god, the universe would still be here without one.

    According to him, even if there is a god, it is most likely a deistic one, who does not interfere. He said this would explain why the workings of nature, while still allowing for a god to have put nature in place to begin with.
     
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    What set of facts is that conclusion (highlighted text above) based upon?
     
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    Google Dr. Chaim Tejman and you will have one of the best answers to this question that I have seen so far.
     
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    What a fascinating concept!

    A superior intellect over humanity, over all life forms......... over advanced Alien species.......over any intelligent life forms that may exist in the higher dimensions of space - time at higher energetic levels...... and this Intelligence/ Force......... truly believes that we should be given freedom of choice.......(one could even say Artistic freedom)...... even to make really stupid decisions and learn something from them??!

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a06


     
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    Daggdag......... i consider your post to be something of a work of art.......... you quoted Stephen Hawking Ph. D. very accurately....... You didn't turn what he had written into some sort of dogmatic assertion that would somehow disprove the statements of the person you were debating........... You didn't use his statements to dogmatically rule out the ideas of the Theists here............ You Sir...... .certainly have earned the right to term yourself a "Moderate!"
     
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    Well, yes, if we buy into the attempted but not completed String Math, then the 10-D and 26-D dimensions which they "invented" as a way of utilizing the Dirac Equations we can start telling ourselves that compacture means we know very little about the Reality we understand by seeing what is true about it.
    Nevertheless, Time, for us, means something different than what you are talking about.

    For us, Time is just "now."
    What ever was in the past is gone.
    And what ever will be in the future is just the next series of Time frames we will be enveloped inside, as the "now" we then exist inside.
    We may feel that we had a past, and we may even plan into the future, but we EXIST only now, in this moment.

    In other words, all Time for us is really just "now."
     
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    Where is 0 and 11 here?
    Base Twelve means 0-11.
     
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    All number systems represent the same things as we know so well in the Base 10 system.
    It only means that the numerals used are different from one base to another.

    For instance, in the base two system, 100 means 4 in the Ten Base System.
    It just writing the same idea with different characters to represent the same concept of what we know as 4.

    100,100 = 36 because the second set is to the base of 8^1 power, while the last 100 is 8^0 power.
    So 100 = 4 time 8 in the second set and 100 = 4 times 8^0 power, or one, which adds to the 32 as 4 more.

    If you follow me here, numbers are all the same, just written in different symbols.
     

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