California Governor Gavin Newsom Imposes Country’s First K-12 Vaccine Mandate

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  1. 9royhobbs

    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    I'm not.
     
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    You were absolutely being condescending in your post.
     
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    I'm not saying anything is impossible.

    But they're probably more likely to die in a car wreck on the way to school....yet each day we take them anyway.

    There's never zero risk.

    My point is 100% valid. Mandating the covid vaccine for kids is 100% anti science, anti facts, and anti data.
     
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    There's never zero risk. Otherwise why take the chance on them dying in a wreck on the way to school? Don't you want to protect the children?....keep em at home. Do you advocate mandating the flu shot? They're at far more risk to the flu than covid. Or are you just going along with what your media overlords are telling you without giving it a seconds thought?
     
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    I don't think that comment makes sense
    We're all day to day
    No, it's not valid. It is anti science, the long term effects are not all known and what is known is not good. There is NO science that says it's bad to vaccinate kids.
    anti facts What facts back you up that it's bad and anti data...what data?
     
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    Being condescending is not being a dick
     
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    You don't vaccinate people who we KNOW are at little to no risk with a vaccine in which we know NOTHING about the long term affects.

    The science is crystal clear on this. It's basic risk vs reward. There's virtually zero reward for vaccinating kids who aren't at risk however, there is risk given the unknown long term affects of the vaccine. Seriously, this is really simple.

    Your argument is basically...lets just vaccinate for the hell of it.

    You don't perform medical procedures on people who don't benefit from the procedure. You especially don't perform the procedure when you don't know about the long term affects of the procedure.

    There is no science backing up vaccinating kids. You can keep spewing out talking points all you want, but as of right now, there's nothing supporting your position.
     
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    Yeah, you do. Why don't you? As far as the long term affects, we KNOW some of the long term covid effects and there is no, none, zero, zilch evidence of a problem with the vaccine.
    You have that backwards.
    No, my argument is preventive medicine given the different variants that can and will emerge. Your argument, on the other hand is let's NOT vaccinate for the hell of it.
    What are you talking about?!! That is done all the time!!
    You keep saying that........still wrong.
    EVERYTHING scientific supports my position, whereas all you have is Tucker Carlson talking points. That is some LOL stuff.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good question. I will decide at that time. BTW, avoiding pharm products and processed foods is why my risk factor is extremely low.
     
  10. WalterSobchak

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    Yeah, but the Hospital will want to pump you with tons of pharm products in order to give you a fighting chance. Will you let them? They will pump meds in you that are not fully approved by the FDA as well if it keeps you kicking. Just saying.
     
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    The odds of me ending up in an ER is extremely low. I know how to keep my immune system strong and am in the lowest risk group. I have a group of like-minded friends and 3 of them caught Covid at age 80+. All had mild to no symptoms.

    For the frail and sick, the vaccine is a good bet. Still not as good as being healthy.
     
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    Different strokes for different folks I guess. I'm of the mindset of if there is a vaccine that can help me not get ill, put that needle in my arm. The one year I skipped the flu shot I got sick as a dog.
     
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    Im sorry to hear that. Since I learned how to naturally strengthen my immune system, I have not been sick once. I have never had a flu shot. Covid carries an extremely low risk compared to the risks of consuming the Standard American Diet.
     

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