Calling failure on testing ‘colossal,’ Biden releases coronavirus plan

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  1. MrTLegal

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    Any crisis response starts with an accurate understanding of the situation.

    A failure to test appropriately results in a failure to gain an accurate understanding of the situation.
     
  2. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I heard about it first from non MSM sources.

    The US is doing very well-the fear mongering isn't going to change that.
     
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    Sure, as soon as you tell me how you feel about Trump banning Christians from entering the US.
     
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    Because if you have it, you would be a carrier without knowing it. If we could have tested anyone with cold/flu symptoms already in early Feb., we would have found the early cases, isolated them, and would be in a much better position now. Mass testing is how South Korea is keeping their outbreak somewhat under control.
     
  5. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are plenty of PPE's around here-Im not seeing a shortage of equipment in hospital.

    And how exactly does testing change management or outcomes for this virus?
     
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    They're so dumb it makes you squint.

    Generally speaking about generic individuals of course, not anyone here. I would never do that.
     
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    I beg your pardon, but unless you've been on another planet for three and a half years, Trump has always linked his performance as President to the stock markets.

    For the next 8 months, Trumpsters will have the thankless task of explaining to the vast majority of Americans that Trump responded very well to the pandemic despite the sudden and catastrophic recession.

    Good luck with that.
     
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    Exactly.

    And you just carried it all over the damn place getting to the hospital instead of just staying in your house.

    There's no way for them to treat it, and the only reason you'd need to go to the hospital is if it got really bad.

    Telling people to go get tested means everyone with a communicable disease (i.e 200,000 flu + 1,000,000 pneumonia per year), are out spreading flu, pneumonia, AND Covid.

    Talk about the absolute worst advice in the world to give people who are sick.
     
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    China bots blame Trump, not China.
     
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    One has got to give his medical staff kudos for being able to hit the medical sweet spot so that he almost sounds coherent. Only the political Left would deliberately run someone senile for the presidency.
     
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    Bet Biden will threaten to take the virus, "outback or outside". lol
     
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    More doom and gloom. Little early for that...
     
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    I already did. Twice. Here it is for a third time.

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    Now tell us why you think they should rename COVID-19 to JSmollett virus.
     
  14. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats for the CDC to track.

    Back to the trenches-how does a testing kit change treatment or patient outcomes?
     
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    Why does it matter if immigrants bring disease into the country.

    I mean we already have lots of people passing out diseases in this country already.

    It's shocking that you support this xenophobic measure.

    If you don't understand why it's the JSmollet of viruses yet, you will.
     
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    And let me guess, the President controls that how?
     
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    It takes a total ignorant economist or a fanatical Trumpster to be calm in the face of this downfall.
     
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    It's reassuring to know that if we ever actually do have an emergency, we'll be cleansed of leftism in short order.
     
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    So you are suggesting that asymptomatic individuals should be tested?

    How many people in the US had "cold/flu symptoms in early February"?
     
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    Not being calm created the situation. Relax, it will all work out by election day. Even Democrats can't stay in panic for months on end...
     
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    Trump could have and should have ordered a ramp up of testing weeks ago, ordered a relaxation of the testing protocols, ordered that the CDC should use the WHO testing while it worked on its own, and demanded the creation of a reporting repository so that everyone (regardless of the test they used) could report their results to a single location.
     
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    Uhhhhh.
     
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    This is not difficult.

    If you have an accurate gauge of the concentration and location of the virus (which you get through widespread testing), then you are able to direct resources to both improve treatment and patient outcomes.
     
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    If they were keeping track of the people tested and who has it they can identify clusters (like NY has done) and request self quarantine.
    They could also contact the people you had contact with to be on the alert or self quarantine.
    But your right that ship may have sailed when the tests didn't work and they couldn't produce enough.
     
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    Yes we should have millions of people currently infected with flu and pneumonia panicking and mixing with people who have Covid 19 so that more than the 14,000 people who normally die from the flu and the 50,000 that normally die from pneumonia also get a good dose of Covid.

    That's ****ing genius.

    That couldn't possibly be a bad idea.

    I mean after you get tested and are found positive, they can give you a pill to make you all better.
     
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