Calling failure on testing ‘colossal,’ Biden releases coronavirus plan

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  1. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    You're serious? Dude.

    The Dow is in a bear market. The NBA, NHL, MLB, NCAA, and ITF have all suspended their seasons.

    And your response is, "It'll be fine by election day?"
     
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    Found the strawman and false choice. Let me know when you are willing to tell us why you think this virus is akin to a black actor.
     
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  3. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The testing is useful only for disease tracking, it in no way changes management or outcomes-but if you have data that shows testing changes treatment or outcomes by all means post it.
     
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    Yes. Asymptomatic individuals should be tested. This virus can still spread while individuals are asymptomatic.
     
  5. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol very good.
     
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    Some day a political leftist might make a convincing excuse for why their Party deliberately panicked an entire nation for strictly political reasons; but they haven't managed it yet.
     
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    This virus **** is getting silly. Everyone has gone WAAAYYYY overboard in their level of hysteria.
     
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    Gladly.

    America’s shamefully slow coronavirus testing threatens all of us
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Says the people who brought you the "muslim ban" and the "undocumented immigrant crime" arguments.

    I've got another sample for the study.
     
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    I suspect 90% of what you say, has already happened. Since you provided no citations, hard to say.
     
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    Not everyone.

    Just those who normally don't use their brains much anyway.
     
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  12. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Democrat politicians get them all wound up and they repeat the talking points.
     
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    At no point do you even try to explain your own logic and instead you make a wholly ignorant strawman of my position.

    Tell us why you think this virus is akin to a former actor from the show Empire.
     
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    Right.

    They want you to spread it around before quarantine, instead of just "if you're sick, stay at home".

    That's brilliant.

    Pretty sure the person infected can use a phone. Not much to do when you quarantine yourself.

    Believe it or not, the government doesn't have to call people for you.

    The testing idea for the general population is vapidly dumb, counter-productive, and is only useful in directing care for the severely ill.
     
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    A remarkably similar percentage of Democrats and Independent believe that the is not being over-hyped. A significant percentage of Republicans believe that the virus is not being over-hyped.

    When you are explicitly part of the distinct minority on a position and you can count the number of experts that agree with you on a single ****ing hand, you need to reconsider your own beliefs.
     
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    For which we can blame the European Union, our "allies". Isn't it kind of funny that our allies continue to treat us like dirt, and yet we have the gall to call them allies? And while we're on the subject, there's been a lot of complaining during Trump's presidency. Here's a question: Who's actually helped the Presidency? Not sardonically mind you, who actually said to themselves: "You know what, I dislike Donald Trump but I'm going to do my best to help with the situation"?

    No one, that's who. That's why their complaints fall on deaf ears. When they had the opportunity to help, when they had the opportunity to at the very least offer a different opinion or a compromise, they didn't step up. NOW that it's an election cycle, they want to perk up.

    With friends like these, who needs enemies?
     
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    1400 people in the US have been diagnosed with c virus.

    That leaves only 330 million others, who you are saying should also be tested.

    Whats the sensitivity and specificity of that screen?
     
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    Yes because the left has never:

    1. Suggested that Trump banning 7 countries was actually a "muslim ban". Opps I meant "geographical travel restriction".
    2. Suggested that illegal aliens who commit crimes are no big deal because we already have Americans committing crimes

    Leftists do not have the capacity to feel shame.
     
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    Oh look, I found the useful aspect that comes from testing the general population.
     
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    I don't give a flying **** if you think Vox is worth reading or not. You wanted evidence that widespread testing is useful and essential to responding to this virus, you got it.
     
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    No, you didn't.

    1. You don't need to treat the non-hospitalized just like people who get the flu or pneumonia and don't even go to the hospital
    2. There is no cure to use
     
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    Politicians are hyping this.

    Medical providers are the least worried about this-that should tell you something. (it won't)

    The truth isn't determined by a vote.
     
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