Can Iran trust America?

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Can Iran trust America?

  1. Yes

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    20.4%
  2. No

    26 vote(s)
    53.1%
  3. yes, but carefully

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    12.2%
  4. Maybe, but America may go back on it.

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    14.3%
  1. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    Council of Experts, Basij, and Revolutionary Guard make Iran a Potemkin democracy.

    (*)(*)(*)(*) them all, but only Iran has a Death to America Day. Let them all bleed, without blowback to Uncle Sam.
     
  2. AboveAlpha

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    Not so vast.

    The majority of Iranian's want Democracy.

    The Iranian Theocratic System is isolated to the Ayatollah's....the Qud's Force and Republican Guard and the Iranian Secret Religious Police.

    They represent just a tiny percentage of the entire Iranian Population.

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  3. AboveAlpha

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    Yes...both men and women were beaten....but men like this guy made sure the beatings and killing of Iranian Female Students sent a message that if you are a woman and DARE to act in a way contrary to their Religious Ideology you will pay a steep price.

    This is also why they will eventually end up on the scrapheap of history as all repressive systems do.

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  4. Regular Joe

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    To summarize then, No, Iran cannot trust America, until the radical religious regime is gone, or at least weakened. It has nothing at all to do with whether or not we can be trusted. It has everything to do with their belief that Allah won't like them anymore if they strike a deal with the infidels. Got it. How can there possibly be anything that we can do with it?
     
  5. Scholar

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    I don't know about that.

    UN inspectors have access to Iranian Enrichment facilities, so they probably are not going to be enriching uranium to nuclear levels in those.

    It would probably be a wild goose chase like Iraq, and if they do have nuclear bombs, an invasion is more likely going to result in the destruction of Tel Aviv since you would be going in blind.
     
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    Iran has dug out several illegal underground Uranium Enrichment Facilities which of course the U.S. discovered as we have Deep Ground Penetrating Radar.

    Within these Facilities Iran has built 17,000 Centrifuges as this is a very old way to enrich Uranium and Iran probably has enough weapons grade Uranium to build at least one and maybe 2 5 to 7 Kiloton Nominal Yield circa 1945 U.S. Military Gun Barrel Design Fission Bombs.

    Hiroshima was 11 Kilotons.

    The problem is that Iran must by the rules of the NPT place Digital Video Camera's covering all areas of all Nuclear Sites as well Iran is allowed time and notice before an IAEA Inspection which is rediculous.

    This means within a few years we will know for certain whether Iran intends to Honor the agreement made with the United States.

    If Iran does not or even worse if Iran announces it has developed Nuclear Weapons....the U.S. Military will go in and seize all Iranian Nuclear Facilities because if we don't Israel will bomb them thus they would poison the entire region with Radioactive dust which is something we cannot allow to happen.

    AboveAlpha
     
  7. ArmySoldier

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    What's wrong with Israel turning Iran into radioactive dust? :hiding:
     
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    Nobody knows. We have the worst mental health system in the semi-civilized world and nobody is keeping track. What I see is a whole lot of drug and alcohol use, something adjusted people don't generally get into. I can only guess you live in Orlando.
     
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    HELL no!!! Americans can't even trust America.
     
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    No... We have such a bunch of morons in congress that they threaten to not even pay our own bills. This same bunch of morons are so devoid of principle, and so paranoid and partisan that they would easily go back on America's word if a bunch of redneck voters want them to, or a rich enough corporation.
     
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  12. Albert Di Salvo

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    Are you reaching out to me? I like it when Iranians reach out.

    If your theocratic regime didn't mean "Death to America" it would have clarified the meaning of the phrase by saying "Death to the US Govt." Protests now that your regime didn't mean Death to America is simply part of the Shiite Doctrine of Taqiyah.

    Iranians mean what they say. They seek the Death of America. Iranians annually take one day off as a holiday in order to celebrate their hope for the Death of America. That's true isn't it?
     
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    Why did a US Presidential candidate sing "Bomb, bomb, bomb. Bomb, bomb Iran?" Was he singing for all Americans?
     
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    They've not only threatened to not pay the bills, they have not paid the bills. For programs they themselves have approved - to the tune of $18,000,000,000,000. They've attempted to pay some of the bills by borrowing (brilliant) and by cranking up the printers. All so the rednecks can buy a 12-pak of Lone Star on a Friday night.
     
  15. Albert Di Salvo

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    The Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran speaks for the Iranian nation. A half wit loser running for president doesn't speak for the American people. Iran celebrates a Death to America Day. America doesn't celebrate a Death to Iran Day.
     
  16. Gizmo

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    Would you trust the country that used its spy agency to illegally overthrew the only democratically elected government your country has ever had? Me neither.

    America also spent the entire 8 year Iran-Iraq war arming both sides and is a financier and backer of Iran's greatest enemy, Israel. So no Iran definitely cannot trust the USA.

    Given the history of the 20th century and beyond no country really can trust the USA except Israel.
     
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    Trust is a construct of the human mind.

    So it all depends upon the beholder of that mind .

    There really is no answer here.
     
  18. ChristopherABrown

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    America cannot trust America.

    The house speaker is being sued for defying the constitution. They've' been doing it for over 200 years, which explains why America has been conducting a near perpetual war on the world.

    http://www.foavc.org/reference/doc4.pdf
     
  19. Albert Di Salvo

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    Obama's a bad guy for proposing and then signing the authorizations to increase the national debt isn't he?

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    What happened at the US Embassy in Tehran in November of 1979?

    And don't forget this:

    "U.S. agents disrupted an Iranian assassination-for-hire scheme targeting Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States, U.S. officials said Tuesday.

    Elements of the Iranian government directed the alleged plan, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said.

    A naturalized U.S. citizen holding Iranian and U.S. passports and a member of Iran's Revolutionary Guard face conspiracy charges connected with the plot."

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/11/justice/iran-saudi-plot/
     
  20. AboveAlpha

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    Israel would not use Nukes.

    They would threaten to bomb the Iranian Illegal Nuclear Facilities with Conventional Bombs....which would shoot up into the air ton's of Radioactive Dust.....and this would poison the region...something the U.S. cannot allow.

    But even more important...The United States cannot allow any Nation to sign the NPT...break every rule within the Treaty and then be allowed to build Nuclear Bombs.

    To do nothing would be worse than any Invasion of Iran.

    We...the U.S. have been seen by the world as going the extra mile....giving Iran what it wanted.

    Now....either Iran Honors the argreement which would be GOOD FOR EVERYONE!!!

    OR....Iran does NOT HONOR THE AGREEMENT with the United States....and this would prompt an immediate U.S. Invasion as only the United States has the Military Capability of sending in 10's of Thousands of Army Rangers, Special Forces, Special Teams, CIA Teams....etc....in order to seize every Iranian Nuclear Site....and present such an Overwhelming Force that most of Iran's Military Services would STAND DOWN rather than die very quickly...plus they would be needed to protect a new Democratic Iran.

    Most Iranian's...over 70% of the entire Iranian Population is under the age of 30 years old....want Democracy and Peace and Good Relations with the United States than the less than 3% to 4% of Iranian's who are much older and desperately desire to develop a Nuke as they actually think a few 5 to 7 Kiloton Fission Bombs would be enough of a deterent to disuade the U.S. Military...they are not.

    What is more scary by far is a word where anyone who has ever signed the NPT to be able to BUY NUCLEAR REACTOR TECHNOLOGY....because they could not develop this on their own....AND THEN BE ALLOWED TO DEVELOP NUCLEAR WEAPONS....like Iran has completed every process as they can quickly assemble one or two 5 to 7 Kiloton Fission Bombs.

    The U.S. will do ANYTHING to prevent the NPT from being effected and Iran needs to learn we really mean this.

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  21. Tommy Palven

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    There was blow-back from what happened to Iran in 1953 when the US and England overthrew the only democratically-elected Muslim government in the Mid-East:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état
     
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    The US is just trying to deal with Iran with the purpose of isolating Russia, that's all.

    Iranians know it. They won't put their trust on America. Actually no other country in the world does it.

    The policies of the US -as a government- to other countries are imposed, and when it is "a deal" means that the US will target that country sooner or later, but at the end, the US will impose the policies at last. And the rest of countries know it.
     
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    yes we absolutely mean what we say but I don't think that can match with your absolute wrong understanding of taqiyah!!!

    anyway!we tried a lot to let others understand what we say but your government empire medias didn't let us.and in contradict with all of their lies about freedom of speech they banned all Iranian channels!like Press-TV or Hispan-TV and etc.why?because they obviously afraid of the reality of US government opponent.. .of course that is not a bout Iran only and your government banned other channels owned by it's opponent.

    regardless to that I see U even don't care a bout what your government did to Iran!I can count more that those12!and it dose not matter for U that what your government id doing against other nations they even don't have this right to defend themselves!
    what would U felt if some other government would do just some of those things to U!??only one of them was enough! www.politicalforum.com/opinion-polls/418395-why-iranian-say-death-america.html

    also for your information there is a lot of Americans in Iran who say Death of America with Iranian.they say this because they love their country [=US]. and they know saying that absolutely points US government not American people.and they know this government not only is an affliction for a lot of people a round the world but also is nuisance for Americans
     
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    He certainly is. Otherwise, we default on paying YOUR bills. But I believe that's alright with you.
     
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    Alright, so things got a little out of hand with the students. BUT, the revolution was completely justified.
     

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