Canada has handled coronavirus outbreak better than US

And I want a personal investigation on how many rioters/looters were repeat offenders released due to the coronavirus! I knew the policy would bite us in the ass, and it did. I would love to ask AG Barr if they would consider the greater value of society over the lives of inmates.

 

Man, did you use an old version of google translate?

 

I hope their travel ban holds for years, then the rude Canadians wont flood our town every winter.

 

Seleman de ma tete

 

Continue ta formation, ton français est vraiment minable...

 

One-liner Pissing into a "debate" forum, are we?

Says you, someone who does not live in France and did not have to oversee a high-tide of deaths due to Covid-19.

How grand of you! How relevant!

You evidently do not live in France. I do! And I went through lock-down here!

It aint fun ... !

PS: When someone apparently knows NOTHING about a subject they should STAY OUT of a forum discussing it! Otherwise such commentary is called Pissing Into the Wind!

 

Doubt that's true.
It more than likely has to do with inherent factors intrinsic to the country, rather than any big difference in government policy or decisions.

Canada's big cities are smaller than those in the US. You go a short distance outside a big Canadian city, suddenly the population drops off, whereas that is not the case in most US cities. The US has several megapolises that stretch on continuously over several cities.

 

I'm not surprised Canada is doing much better. Trump was out golfing when thousands of Americans were dying. Shows where his priorities are.

 

I agree with 90% of this, truly, but it belongs in its own thread or in a thread about tax policy. It has nothing to do with the subject of this thread.

 

Stoopid is as stoopid does. Someone doesn't wear a mask, they die. But having been infected they also infect others who will die as well.

Brilliant logic - for idiots ... !

 

That comment bears some explanation.

Most countries, such as in Europe, that undertook the right measures at the right time saved lives. Just compare deaths between France and Germany, the former having squandered time and the latter having reacted almost immediately. (Because of Angela Merkel who reacted immediately. Angela started her work-life in a laboratory!))

True enough. If one looks at a plot of deaths-to-date on a map of America, it is the most populated areas that stand-out. (See US Covid death-map here.)

But, of course, that is true of any national contagion. Still, I live in boonies of France, and my "state" has had fewer than 100 casualties ...

 

I still think the differences are due to other factors that do not have to do with government policy.

 

Yes, sorry, but that is where I thought it was posted.

I did not intend to start the thread here. In fact, I have started it elsewhere. Here, I think ...

 

I don't - particular given the nature of the epidemic ...

PS: Ditto Sweden that is learning fast how badly it underestimated the threat!

 

Oh yeah?

Well, pardon my crassness, but maybe after he's buried thousands of Americans will come to crap on his grave?

Let him be a lesson to any future presidential wannabe - this one is the kind we do not need and do not want to ever see again ...

 

Look, I agree with you wholeheartedly.

But when some HERE brings up the subject of what the American government must do, I inevitably get into the specifics of Good Governance.

Because, that is what I learned in high-school a long, long time ago. And what I am seeing here is a bunch of Yank knot-heads who haven't the slightest idea of how the basics work.

Good Example: In the latter part of the 19th century, our representatives in DC decided to fart-around with the manner in which national voting occurred. The vote amongst the ex-colonies was not easy. There was no railroad and no telegraph. So, getting the results from the state to DC was problematic. Which meant, ipso facto, that an Electoral College was the best solution because of its multiplicity. That is, a few people could not "fake the vote" if a good number were involved in overseeing its creation and counting the results.

We are no longer at that time. In fact, we are more than two centuries later and yet we vote in the very same way!

Key to an Truly Democratic country is the ability for its citizens to vote. But, we never learned how to keep up with times, and voting today is essentially the same as was created long, long ago. What we have learned, however, is that the Electoral College manipulates the presidential vote and Gerrymandering manipulates the state vote*.

Now tell me it isn't so. Tell me that the voting process in the US is just hunky-dory and the very best of any democratic country on earth.

I need a good laugh today ...

PS: At the end of WW2, grateful that the US was generally responsible for freeing them from NAZI-rule, the European states needed to think up the process to be used to guaranty fair and honest the voting procedure for political office in their country. Not one ever adopted either Gerrymandering or the Electoral College!

 

IMHO I partly agree with you. I think other factors impacted the differences on government policy.

My take on why Canada has had so much better success with the war on Covid pandemic vs the US is the Canadians were united in their the war. They ALL worked together. In the US not only was there a war on the pandemic but also their was a war with each other. The partisan divide greatly influence what approach you wanted to take and how seriously the war was. So essentially the US was fighting the war on multiple fronts while Canadians were united.

For example I heard that in Canada you had liberal mayors praising conservative premiers and conservative premiers praising liberal prime ministers. In BC when their medical leaders gave recommendations, (sorry I can't remember the name of their medical expert that received a lot of international kudos recently for her work), the people and politicians followed the advice from all spectrum's of political ideology. They shutdown and reopened in phases following the expert advice and a high percentage of the people followed recommendations to wear mask and social distance.

In the US, the war on covid was always political. Republican governor say this, democrat governs do this. There also was no sense of cooperation and that we were all in this together. There was finger pointing, blame assigning and nit picking details to make the other side look bad.

The whole mask fiasco in the US is a perfect example. For the last little while Fauci has been advocating mask constantly. Some people who are against wearing mask point to Fauci past comments where he said mask were not necessary as a sign of a flip flop and that because of the flip flop his medical opinion is no longer valid. If the president does not believe Fauci is giving accurate advice he should just fire him and replace him with someone else. Then we can all listen to their advice on mask use and that person's career and reputation will be on the line.

The CDC is another example. It is the US preeminent voice for disease control and related matters. They release a series of guidelines on reopening, social distancing, gatherings etc... In Canada they trust their medical experts in the US we take the CDC guidelines like suggested recommendation for an old grand parent or something. Some followed it, some ignored it and some take the parts that were convenient.

So basically my take is, Canada came together and the US fractured apart in the war against covid.

 

True, but why?

What is it about the American Mentality that half the people see Donald Trump as a decent PotUS, when he has mindlessly committed numerous transgressions of not only presidential-probity but the law.

How is it that a well-undertaken assessment of his committing an impeachable action by enticing a foreign-country to investigate the son of a political rival in exchange for sizable foreign-aid has had no bearing upon his presidency. The Senate Replicant majority would not vote for his impeachment despite a well-constructed indictment conducted by the HofR.

Such is the mindless politics of a second-rate so-called "democracy" ...

 

I do. Different strains hit different areas, the areas that got the less deadly forms, had lower mortality rates. Populations with lower numbers of A blood type did better. Societies that have a high degree of mask wearing did better. Areas where their stupid government didn't force COVID positive people into nursing homes did MUCH better, compare CA with NY, NJ, PA and MA. Countries that have a higher useage of the old Polio vaccine, like Germany for one example did much better than those who use the new one.

As for Sweden, what a test case: Multiple errors in the Lying Fake News New York Times article about Sweden’s corona strategy.

A fisking occurs.

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Fake News Lie:

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WAIT, I HEARD SWEDEN’S APPROACH WAS A FAILURE: Sweden’s coronavirus death toll is now approaching zero, but experts are warning others not to hail it as a success.