Can't we just vote for Trump?

You can tell me I'm wrong but to tell me I work for the Kremlin is unacceptable.

 

Putin is proud of you.

 

It is absolutely acceptable.

 

because they attempt to do overthrow democracy doesn't real.

Biden in the Democrats want the exact same thing but they also want to put all the youngsters in a meat grinder called foreign war. And also import as much fentanyl as they can from South of the border.

I disagree first the eliminate democracy hoax is totally fake. The news media told you that and you just believe them and you probably shouldn't.

Biden said f*** you to all of the citizens 100% of them let your kids keep dying and fitting all over doses I'm not doing squat about the border and at the same time I'm giving some corrupt dictator in Eastern Europe billions of dollars. Oh and to pay for it we're going to steal from your savings through something called inflation.

And we're also going to use the AI to threaten you into paying every single penny of the tax tax tax tax tax tax tax.

Biden is probably one of the worst Presidents in history.

There were some there in like the gilded age that might have been worse but that was probably about it.

 

No neither do you as regards bodies. No-one does.
The war in Ukraine stems from Russian supporters in free Ukraine who fought the legitimate Government in Kiev with the support of the Russians supplying arms. THEN the Russians invaded Ukraine. Ditto Crimea. If they are not stopped Putin will invade other small countries that were part of the USSR before Freedom from Communist Russia.
It isn't Joe's war. It's the war for freedom from oppression. If Trump to be the next POTUS you will find what oppression is if you listen to his speeches. And, I suspect, a civil war. Do you really think your soldiers (forgive the term black) will oppress their own people in the south - or anywhere for that matter.
And if you can't see the true nature of Donald I suggest you open your eyes. He has called himself a dissident. So were Hitler, Mussolini and others. He opposes official policy, tried to get himself elected by illegal means and denying the truth.
The sad fact is that freedom costs in terms of money and lost lives.

 

Can't we just vote for Trump?

Sure buddy, we could also lobotomize ourselves for fun too. Why not, aye?

 

Thank you for your response Trevor.

I have to go really soon, but I will mention a big difference between US and British politics
that I experienced.

Britain has a left, a true left, that favors a lower Gini coefficient.

On a different forum a few years ago I posted over here for people to explain what 'the left'
means and got the answer 'pro abortion'.

Perhaps you can get a better response, but over here the 'right' is more interested in low income
people than the 'left' is.

And as for war, the weapons makers (defence contractors) are everywhere, when there's a good opportunity for war, both sides of the government vote for it.

 

Donald Trump’s lead ‘weakening’ as he fights battles on four fronts

 

It is democrats that want to go around the voters so it wouldn't be Trump.

 

Indulging the pissy old geezer would placate him and his bitchy butt barnacles who parrot his incessant whining.

Then, the rancid remnant could be properly disposed of.

Trump Dementia Evidence 'Overwhelming,' Says Top Psychiatrist
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"Unlike normal aging, which is characterized by forgetting names or words, Trump repeatedly shows something very different: confusion about reality," he wrote in a statement published on Friday, which referenced Trump's confusing Barack Obama with Joe Biden.

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"If he were to become president he would have to be immediately removed from office via the 25th Amendment as dangerously unable to fulfill the responsibilities of office," Dodes, who is also a distinguished fellow of the American Academy of Addiction Psychiatry, added, citing the 1967 mechanism that allows for a president to be removed due to unfitness.

In another statement released at the same time, New York psychologist Suzanne Lachmann said Trump, 77, would "seemingly forget how the sentence began and invent something in the middle" resulting in "an incomprehensible word salad"—a behavior she argued is observed "frequently in patients who have dementia."

Meanwhile, John Gartner, a psychologist and former professor at Johns Hopkins University Medical School, has defended Biden's forgetfulness as a natural sign of his age, but authored a petition that argues Trump is "showing unmistakable signs strongly suggesting dementia."​

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and when Biden becomes president for a second term you can blame the people that supported trump

any other republican would spank Bidens ass...from Chris Christi to Mike Pence to Nikki Haley

even Rhonda Santos beats Biden

but

NOO!! the GOP supports the only guy the cant beat Biden

it is like they want Biden to win so they can continue to bitch and whine and get twitter folowers

instead of actually being a productive party trying lead the country into the future

 

It's a pure tossup between Biden and Trump. I believe almost any other republican would be trouncing Biden with his very low numbers other than Trump. The reverse is also true, that almost any other democrats would be wiping the floor with Trump other than Biden. Most Americans dislike and don't want neither one as their next president. This rematch is a classic example of both major parties telling most Americans to stick it where the sun don't shine.

 

And where would that be? Seriously neither should be running - apart from off a cliff. They are both tooo old.

 

I am not sure just any other democrat could beat trump

Gavin Newsome for example...he would be such an easy target..California has seen better days

I can see the campaign adds now against him..all painting a negative view of California and Newsome

despite it is still the worlds 5th largest economy

Biden will spank trump just like,last time///the electoral votes will be similar

but the popular vote will have trump losing by 10 million votes

 

I totally agree.

 

This isn’t 2020. Trump was president then, Biden the challenger. 2020 was an referendum on Trump. 2024 will be more of a referendum on Biden than Trump. Although being a former president, the referendum deal will cut both way. Biden didn’t have a record to run on in 2020, although he was Obama’s VP.


Biden’s problem is most Americans think he has done a very poor job as president as his overall job approval and the approval on most issues show.


https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/approval-rating


https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/issues


That is what Biden is running on this time. That plus voters are much more familiar with him than in 2020. Then there is this - CBS News poll finds voters remember Trump's economy as good, boosting Trump to national lead over Biden today.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-trump-leads-biden-economy/


That explains why Trump is tied with Biden. But most Americans dislike and don’t want neither one as their next president. Seems to me neither party gives an owl’s hoot about most Americans.

 

trump is tied with Biden because of the LOVE of Trump by his followers

with the election still almost 8 months away the trumpers are on the bandwagon .
they still have the same hats of 7 years ago...these people are dedicated to support trump
and no matter how disgusting or rude or dishonest trump becomes..trumpers will be trumpers

biden supporters dont have the cult like love of biden that trumpers do for trump
if Biden slips up and says or does the wrong thing, Bidens people are not so dedicated

Biden voters vote for Biden ...they don't love him

Trump supporters not only vote for trump...they LOVE them some trump

Trump could shoot someone walking down 5th avenue and not lose a vote

Biden can lose votes by making a few gaffs during a speech

 

Two groups of voters, Biden supporters, 57% are anti-Trump, 30% pro-Biden. Trump supporters are just the opposite, 69% pro-Trump 28% anti-Biden. Regardless, in the end it still boils down to basically a tie today when considering the MOE of plus or minus 3 points.


What to make of the above? I’m not really sure other than Trump supporters will turn out because they want Trump to win whereas Biden supporters will turn out because they’re anti-Trump, they want Trump to lose. The anti-voter was most important in 2020, the anti-voter, those voters who are voting against a candidate, not for any candidate, just against. Biden won the anti-voters in 2020 68-30 over Trump. Unknown to most, those voting for a candidate because they wanted that candidate to win, Trump won those voters 53-46 over Biden. Biden owes his presidency to the anti-voters.


https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/exit-polls/president/national-results


In the end, it wasn’t that the people wanted Biden as president, they just wanted Trump gone. This explains why many voted for Biden, then voted republican down ballot enabling the GOP to gain 13 house seats. This may also help explain Biden’s very poor job approval, they weren’t for him to begin with. The difference between 2020 and 2024 is the number of Americans against both. Not wanting neither one as the next president. Whereas Biden was an acceptable alternative to Trump in 2020, he’s not all that acceptable against Trump today as Trump isn’t all that acceptable against Biden.