Catholic high school students Mock Native American elder

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  1. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    You didn't answer it. You answered a question no one asked and now can't even admit it.

    So you do consider it justified. What a shocker.
     
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    Did you see all three in that boys simple smile?
     
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    Did you read the articles? Do you remember the nonsense you posted??

    The articles give no ideas to, conclude, that young supporters are non-existent or dying off.
     
  4. Doug1943

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    Sometimes it's an admirable character trait to defend an undefendable position. You get wiped out, but if your defense is ferocious enough and makes the attackers pay a high price for their victory, the enemy may think twice before trying it again. Or you may set an inspiring example of courage.

    Thus Texans honor the men of the Alamo, and Mexicans, the boys of Chapultepec Castle, all of whom fought to the death against invaders.

    But ... in political argument, it's usually a bad idea to defend a bad position, even from your own point of view. It makes people take you less seriously. Someone who can say, whoops, I've changed my mind ... that's someone that I, anyway, will listen to more carefully in the future. They've showed that they think about things, and don't just have a reflex response. Even if they're my political enemy, I may be able to learn something of value from them.

    The best "anti-Covington" case you can make is this: these young men behaved pretty damned well, under the circumstances. But ... could they have done even better?

    Sure: they need to learn certain things.

    (1) There are a lot of damaged people in the world. Some of these damaged people are that way because, in part, the human species is a nasty one -- I guess, for Christians, we can call it "original sin" -- and we've done terrible things to each other in the past: the treatment of Blacks and Native Americans in the US is one example, among many. Nobody's innocent: read a bit about how African tribes treat each other, or American Indians treated each other, and you'll see that. Whites were not any morally better than anyone else, they were just technically better at exterminating and enslaving. (That technical improvement later led to moral improvement, but that's another story.)

    (2) Some of these damaged people -- who feel ashamed of their particular tribe -- will try to use their position as victims to gain some personal advantage. Or they'll retreat into fantasy. The professional Indian is the first case, the 'Black Hebrews', the second. But both are pathetic, not evil. They are not the moral equivalent of the Ku Klux Klan.

    (3) How to respond to such people? Our first response should be pity . But that's 'should' , In the case of the 'Black Hebrews' and the professional Indian, our actual response is amused contempt -- we can't help it. But we ought to try to transcend that. And while the Covington boys are trying to be transcending, it's not wrong for them to give a thought to the fact that ... they're young, and white, and going to a good school. It's really true that they have advantages that these men probably didn't have. That doesn't make them evil, or the men good ... it's just a fact about which to be mindful.

    (4) Lastly, and most important of all -- these young men must know that they do not live in a sane, fair society. The Radical Left has a lot of influence now, including over decent liberal people who ought to know better. Anything that someone who is not bowing down to the Radical Left does ... anything they say ... anything they write ... even a look ... can be turned by the Radical Left into proof of irredeemable racism-fascism-etc etc.

    Louis Farrakhan can call Jews "the spawn of Satan" and the Radical Left and their gormless dupes in the mass media won't turn a hair. But the wrong expression on your face when a senile old lunatic has walked into your group and is banging his drum -- that can be turned by the Radical Left into a lynching offense.

    It's a shame that life is this way, but, hey ... it's a conservative aphorism that "Life is not fair".
     
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    Because you will brand them as racist if they don't.
     
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    Lol ... believe what you want under your reduculous red Trump cap ... I answered it proper, but you are not able to understnad English as it looks like. Your problem, mot my one!


    Do you understnad the differenc ebetween justified and understandable? Obviously not ... becuas eif, you would not write such a bullcrap like now!

    Yes ... keep believing the fairy tales you like ... if uncomfortable historical facts contradict your believe!

    Yes ... and 4 of these 7 million peoples wiped out were ancestors of me ... Germans and not being Jews, but being social democrats and being against Hitler and in Resistance in Germany!
    And another one was my grandfather who as German had to flee to France in 1935 and joined the French Foreign Legion and later fought in the Legion against Rommel in North Africa and later against Germany in Italy!

    So don't come to me this way here ...
    And above all, before you accuse us in Germany, first make sure that at you in the US no Nazis and other Arian scum is allowed publicly to deny the Holocaust ... or worse ... may say publicly, these 6 to 7 million killed were not been enough, because it is supposedly Freedom of Speech!
    None of this scum is doing any of this, as many as in the world, because then they end up in jail!
     
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    You're the one that came here to complain about the US, so yeah, you're hypocrisy.
     
  8. LangleyMan

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    The usual tedious defense of code words and snickering. I remember when racist whites used to say "nigra" when "negro" was the PC term replacing "n'gger." Play games with someone else.
    If you assert the Native Americans in this situation and the Black Hebrew Israelites are baiting white people, I agree. They're racists who in this case baited kids, a pretty low thing to do.

    Is the media setting up a conflict narrative to keep people tuned in and sering ads? Of course. They're taking the silly racism of kids and with your help making it a big deal. Instead of defusing the apparent conflict by saying the kids shouldn't have responded as they did and focusing your comments on the race baiting done to the students, you gave credibility to charges of your alleged racism by the way you defend the kids.

    The black and Native American race baiters got the kids and now you.
     
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    All this BS for what? Why can't you acknowledge the kids were suckered into a racist reponse to racist attacks by blacks and Native Americans?
     
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    I already explained.
     
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    If someone who supports a strong defense, school vouchers, medical vouchers, business tax cuts, immigration reform that for example limits family reunification to spouses and minor children, etc. is a leftist in your mind, you must be a fascist.
     
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    What does the obvious smirk have to do with sexism and homophobia?
     
  13. LangleyMan

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    Still nothing from you.
     
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    Orwell called it "face crime".
     
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    So you think he smirked (smiled uncomfortably) because … the old guy was Native American? It wasn't because the guy was in his face beating his little drum?
     
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    No you didn't. You just said that he smirked, which can never be racist despite what your deluded mind thinks.
     
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    There might be an argument for the rest of the kids, but Sandmann LITERALLY STOOD THERE!
     
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    He was AWOL most of the time.
     
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    We have been at war since 1776.
     
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    If smirks make you a racists, how do you rate this guy?
     
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    When did Jews become a race? It must have been around the same time muslims became a race.
     
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    He was there more than someone who got 5 deferments.
     
  23. LangleyMan

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    I posted a picture of the kid a step back into the crowd with a natural smile. He knew his buddies were hooting at the drumming, doing timahawk chops, and so on when he participated in a stare down,

    By refusing to acknowledge the relatively benign racism of the kids, perhaps adding they should get a bit of instruction in how to deal with racism directed at them, you call your own judgment into question when you could have been effectively calling out Phillips, his Native American pals, and the really racist Black Hebrew Israelites.
     
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    Read my posts. I'm not going to explain again and again.
     
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    Geezuz, he stood there with a smirk on his face.
     

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