Challenge To Remove Obama From New Hampshire Primary To Be Heard Friday

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  1. Really People?

    Really People? New Member

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    Well, yeah, but, I was just rifling off news sources...
     
  2. Really People?

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    In this context, somebody who thinks he's going to have some sort of bearing on a situation, and, will not...
     
  3. Really People?

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    If you look up anything about Obama's SSN and investigations related to it, you only get birther blogs back, except for Snopes debunking the SSN thing...

    Why is that, I wonder?
     
  4. Dutch

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    Certainly not because SSA or anyone else conducted anything resembling official investigation of Obama's SS number, right? Shiva's post implies just that :mrgreen:
     
  5. Really People?

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    So, where's the legit investigations from the birther side?

    You know, since burden of proof is still on the accuser round these parts...
     
  6. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not easy to investigate the sitting president of the United States, you know... whoever tries is being stonewalled, ridiculed and thrown rocks at (figuratively speaking, of course). Which is fine, this is how it should be. We'll just have to sit and wait until election time comes, and see what happens... :mrgreen:
     
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    Actually, you would be wrong about that. The SSA does a match every single year for every social security number used when payroll taxes are filed.

    Every single year.

    This means that Obama's number has been investigated and authenticated by the SSA about 35 times.

    http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/ans...o-when-an-employer-receives-a-no-match-letter

    http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/ans...2LzEvdGltZS8xMzIxOTM4NzkwL3NpZC94UkJxTUpKaw==
     
  8. SFJEFF

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    Just a reflection on the original post- if in the OP opinion that two legislator's supporting this gives it some validity- what does the head of the NH Republican caucus saying Birthers are nutty say about it validity?
     
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    Its not easy being Green.

    Wait- didn't Trump have his crack team of investigators on the job, you know searching like OJ, all over Hawaii for whoever did the crime.

    Of course then we have the crack team of Birther lawyers...and their record of success.

    And lets not forget Sheriff Joe's posse, riding out to the sunset, just like a scene from Blazing Saddles.

    All of these crack investigators...guess they are just all intimidated by me.

    Just like Wash.
     
  10. Dutch

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    JEFF, was or was not Obama a dual citizen with dual allegiance for at least 21 years of his life? :mrgreen:
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    This is funny because CNN sent a team to Hawaii as well. CNN interviewed a nurse in the maternity ward where Obama was born and she remembered him being born. When asked if Trump's investigators had talked to her she said no. When CNN went to the Hawaii Dept of Health they asked if Trump's investigators had been there and they were told no.

    Apparently Trump's investigators never got out of the bar at the hotel in Honolulu as they certainly didn't interview anyone of importance. Personally I doubt that Trump sent anyone to investigate.
     
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    See Jeff's post...

    Also, since you feel like it's tough to investigate the President, is that supposed to be the proof that he's hiding something, because nothing to back up the accusations has been found!?

    Man, I'm glad our court system doesn't operate like that...
     
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    Probably because this is a thread about the birther non-issue...
     
  14. Dutch

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    This thread is about Obama's past, many of peculiarities and irregularities in the Obama's past, but it's all centered around Obama's eligibility being a US president. I'm not going to list all the peculiarities such as strange birth certificate, strange social security number, strange report from National student clearinghouse and on, and on, and on... of course, all of these are mistakes, and Obama seems to be blessed with number of them :mrgreen:

    Our in-house Obama defenders are very active in defending Obama and debunking all these strange occurrences, but they're strangely silent when I ask them to confirm or deny several well known facts from the life of the Great One, and the facts are:

    Obama was born Kenyan citizen, yes or no.
    Obama was born dual national, and remained dual national until at least the age 21. Yes or no
    Obama was born with dual allegiance, and remained to have dual allegiance until at least the age 21. Yes or no.

    Scan active posts in this section and see how many times I asked Wong and JEFF to confirm or deny these 3 simple facts and see, how many times they've answered me? I wonder why? :mrgreen:
     
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    In NEW HAMPSHIRE, right?

    Sure it has nothing to do with Obama's trip there today. ;)
     
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    Of course, we're not silent at all. We are just having a great deal of fun refusing to allow Dutch to change the subject from his own repeated idiotic self contradiction.

    First Dutch insists that no foreign nation can involuntarily impose their citizenship, which (if true) would mean that the answers to all his questions are, "No."

    Then Dutch insists that, never mind, foreign nation can involuntarily impose their citizenship after all, which (if true) would mean that the answers to all his questions are, "Yes."

    It's nothing more than an opportunity to expose Dutch's confused and hypocritical thought processes, since it ultimately has nothing to do with Presidential eligibility at all. Dual citizens are fully eligible for the presidency as long as one of their citizenship is natural born US.

    So come on Dutch, show some spine and make up your mind. Which is it?

    Can foreign nations involuntarily impose their citizenship or not? Don't be afraid. Pick an answer. You will look no worse than you already do.

    :mrgreen:
     
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    why wouldn't he ?? he's got seven billion dollars.
     
  18. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Considering that the New Hampshire primary is on Jan 10th and President Obama isn't the only Democrat on the ballot it would make sense for him to campaign there before the election.

    It is highly doubtful that the Obama campaign even knew about the frivious challenge to his eligibility and if they did it wasn't worth even considering. His eligibility has been firmly established by the State of Hawaii and is beyond any question.
     
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    Can you please give me the nurses name and link to this revelation, specifically of her remembering him born?
     
  20. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really People? As you can see, I still cannot get direct answers to my 3 simple questions... :mrgreen:
     
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    Sure you can. But you owe us something first.

    :-D
     
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    1- There was no Kenya when he was born.
    2- Irrelevent to his elligibility.
    3- Irrelevent for his elligibility.
     
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    Considering that none of these have any bearing on natural born citizenship which is established based upon Jus Soli why would anyone care?

    Barack Obama was a natural born citizen of the State of Hawaii in 1961. Whether he was eligible to naturalized as a citizen of another country has no bearing on whether he qualified to be the president of the United States.

    Dual citizenship does not prohibit a person from being the President of the United State so long as they are a natural born citizen of the United States.

    Let us look at someone else. John McCain was not born in the United States and failed to meet the 14th Amendment's criteria of being born in the United States which would establish that he's a natural born citizen of the United States. John McCain was a natural born citizen of Panama and not the United States. Why haven't the "birthers" address this with the vigor they've had related to President Obama that was unquestionably a natural born citizen of the United States?
     
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    Interesting that you refer to his trip there today as 'campaigning' -- his official calendar calls "delivering remarks on the American Jobs Act."

    I'm sure you're right... it's just a coincidence he's going to NH this week.

    Nothing to see here folks, move along.
     
  25. Dutch

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    A quote from Fight the smears:

    "Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

    http://www.fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

    Do you mean to tell, Fight teh smears got that one wrong? What else did they get wrong, I wonder? :mrgreen:
     

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