'Chemical attack' in Syria kills at least 58 people

The inhumanity of humanity...

 

"The Russian defense ministry claimed that a Syrian airstrike hit "workshops, which produced chemical warfare munitions" in the eastern outskirts of Khan Sheikhoun" its A MASSIVE LIE, AND tv.ru PROPAGANDA

 

Iran is repopulating Syria with Shia and Turkey is planning to remove the Kurds from Northern Syria. How many wars and genocides are being waged in Syria? There's little left to save and even if there was that's not the agenda anymore or perhaps never was.... it's hyenas each grabbing a piece of the carcass.

 

look like things will change , and very soon http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-red-line-and-my-attitude-has-changed.501444/

 

That is unacceptable, and must change. There must be a dialogue opened, an active diplomatic negotiation.

 

too late for you guys, you are gonna be kick out from Syria and pretty soon as i told you , the thugs (kleptocracy) can not be the friends with USA - democracy

 

The EU is paying Turkey billions of Euros to keep the refugees from flooding into Europe, Iran is chasing it's Persian empire dream and the only thing the west and Russia cares about is the obliteration of ISIS. Why talk when you are getting what you want, even if the currency is human life.

 

Because nothing worth a human life as a payment.

 

Prove it. Most of assad's arsenal came from russia, other non-Western sources.

 

Kurds are "mostly" sunni. That was the "only" single reason Yavuz Sultan Selim brought them from Zagros mountains (Iran Iraq border) down to Hakkâri Turkiye in 16th century and made out of them a buffer force against Shia Persians (Iran) on the eastern most border. So he could go on with his conquest of Europe without risking the east.

I mentioned this before; last summer there was a meeting with Al Muhabarat in Algeria. Since then, our top boys have flown to Damascus many times and their guys have paid us numerous visits in İstanbul. Assad personally hosted Turkish patriots more than 3 times at his own presidential office and showed them the respect that he usually does so to any foreign "president". This in turn answers the question about "who really is in charge of our Republic".

USA/EU should focus on threats from within more than anything recently as the region's changing realities are dictating. Turkiye has already sailed off and theres no turning back.

We did not cut no deals with KRG. They have been digging their own graves lately and all we're doing is just helping them to do so. You'll understand when the time comes.

Atilla Yeşilada may have the greatest first name in the world but he knows only hearsay about politics. Sorry...

Whats myth to you is the reality of more than 80 million determined souls...

 

Sounds emotional but still understandable, yet entirely unrealistic.

That carcass was all ready for the feast when those towers were brought down into ashes...

 

Do you have any idea, what you just accused my country of? I sincerely hope, that this wild, insane idea is not came out of the blue - just because it's been proven that it has not been an RF jets, who launched this attack - in attempt to find a way to blame Russian Federation for this tradegy.
We singned the Chemical Weapons Convention of 1992, banning use, production and transportation of chemical weapons, we don't do the chemical weaponry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_Weapons_Convention

Please, abstain from making a wild theories, unless you posess reliable, valid evidences of a Convention's violation.

If you have meant Soviet Union, then be clear with your statements, to avoid misconceptions.
In that case, I must mention, that Soviet Union has signed Genevan Protocol of 1925, that forbid use of chemical weapons, albeit with reservations - that said to have been recalled later, with Union accepting all articles of Protocol. According to Wiki, though, it has been producing chemical weapons during Cold War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Protocol
According to media, 90% of chemical arsenal in Russian Federation was destroyed at point of 2015, process continues, and - judging by prognosis, made in 2012, chemical arsenal in RF will be eradicated in 2017-2019.
http://nvo.ng.ru/nvoevents/2015-07-17/2_news170715.html
http://izvestia.ru/news/516669
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Химическое_оружие_России#.D0.A1.D0.BE.D0.B2.D1.80.D0.B5.D0.BC.D0.B5.D0.BD.D0.BD.D0.BE.D0.B5_.D1.81.D0.BE.D1.81.D1.82.D0.BE.D1.8F.D0.BD.D0.B8.D0.B5

 

The only 'proven' fake news are the NYTimes, CNN, NBC, BBC, Guardian, Washington Post, Politico, etc. In other words other than the MI6 compromised BBC, the rest are all owned by the globalist corporations..

Anyway, the former chemical attack was a combined effort by Turkey and Saudi Arabia since the only chance they had of winning at the time was for Nato to bomb Damascus and destroy it the way they did Libya. Turkey had its troops lined up at the border and ready to march into Syria at the time, and Saudi Arabia was also ready to grab what it can. They were furious with Washington when Obama cancelled.

That the terrorists would massacre the Alawites and Christians who had gathered in Damascus for Assad's protection meant no more to them than the destruction of Iraq and Libya.

As for the Turkish involvement, I believe it was revealed by the Turkish newspaper Cumhurriyet, and I think they are being sentenced as traitors... or at least some reporters of the newspapers are, but I'm not sure it's for that incident. That Turkey was together with KSA in helping with the former chemical attack, I might have picked up on Moon of Alabama or some other reliable inside source like Voltairenet. It's not something I would get from the Russian sites. They usually just state facts, instead of connecting the dots and forming educated opinions.

 

Just so everyone knows, these are the geo political interests of the different nations involved in Syria..

Kurds - Want to establish their own nation.
Turkey - Doesn't want Kurds to establish their own nation since it threatens their sovereignty.
Israel - Wants a separation between Iran and Syria for its security.... preferably the secular Kurds.
Jordan - Wants land in Syria for the Palestinians?
Saudi Arabia - Wants to expand into Raqqa where the oil wells are and build a Sunni Caliphate.
Iran - Wants to continue ties with a secular Assad and the Shias in Iraq.
Russia - Wants to retain the barrier of the Shia crescent with a united Syria and Iran for its security from Gulf terrorists.
China - Needs a friendly Syria for its trade routes and Iraq for its oil.
Turkey - Wants to expand into former Ottoman lands which include parts of Syria and Iraq
Israel - Wants to retain the Golan Heights for its security and now for its oil.
Qatar - Wants a gas pipeline going through Syria to Turkey.
US - Wants to contain Russia by pushing it out of Syria so it can retain its hegemony

Then there's Britain, France, etc.

WOW, What a mess?

 

You mentioned Iran pursuing Persian Empire dreams which is merely speculation by the Gulf Arab states... who themselves are trying to expand into a caliphate by incorporating parts of Syria. I think between the Saudi Caliphate, and Erdogan's Sultinate, they have the whole Middle East covered including the Central Asian States, the Caucasus, N. Africa, the Balkans, Spain, Rome, parts of France and now Germany, Sweden .....

 

The United States is responsible for plunging Syria into civil war in the first place, all as part of a policy pushed by the Israelis and Wahhabi Arabia aimed at severing Iran's ties to Syria and Hezbollah. That makes all the hypocritical posturing and lies all the more disgusting.

The policy I allude to, incidentally, started under the Bush administration, with its outlines charted in Seymour Hersh's article in the New Yorker in 2007 entitled the Redirection. That policy continued under Obama, with Hillary a major proponent of that policy, citing Israeli related considerations in pursuing that posture. It went ahead in full force after Assad failed to respond to the last overtures to sever his ties with Iran.

After Trump came to office, with the Syrian civil war basically won by Assad, the Israelis and those around Trump -- along with a host of other parties -- began pushing for an alliance with Russia aimed at the same thing: kicking Iran out of Syria. The Russians were open to aspects of the idea, but neither could deliver what the US wanted nor could they trust a Trump administration embroiled in scandals for its connections to Russia. At the end, the overtures to Russia didn't seem to make the progress its proponents had hoped.

In this mix, with Iran becoming officially -- and over the objections of Israel and Wahhabi Arabia and the terrorists they sponsor - a guarantor of the ceasefire in Syria, we began to see desperate attempts to renew the Syrian fighting. It began with senseless terrorist attacks in Damascus and elsewhere. What exactly happened with the latest atrocity isn't clear to me yet, but Assad would need to see his head examined if he had any part in ordering a chemical attack that would be broadcast around the world for no apparent tactical or strategic gain! That simply doesn't add up.

Iran, by itself allied with Hezbollah and some of the shia factions in Iraq, isn't strong enough to stand up against the array forces which are lined up against not just Iran, but human decency and any semblance of justice and fairness for the people in the region. We certainly would need some allies in that fight, particularly since there are those within Iran who are like a fifth column and have also worked witting or unwittingly to pave the way for Iran to be vanquished. But I hope that for once the Russians show some metal and resolve and stand up for what is right and just in a region that has suffered for too long from, inter alia, various colonial and neo-colonial manipulations, the Zionist project and its various manifestations in terms of the actions of an ever expanding Israel, the evils of reactionary Wahhabi ideology and the assortment of other such backwards and malicious ideologies aimed at fostering anti-Iran/anti-Shia sentiments while also keeping the region backward and living up to the image of its people and culture that the Islamophobes and colonialists want to project. The fact that the US, a country that I used to believe was constituted to eventually find the path to justice, has instead become the embodiment and source of such injustice and evil, makes it all the more sad to me. There was a time when America's obsession with Israel was largely a marginal issue. More recently, ever since PNAC and the neocons, with Israel expanding its horizons and having forged friends with the military industrial complex, the United States has simply become the greatest source of injustice and inhumanity in the post WWII era.

 

'Proven' by... Trump's baseless tweets and other baseless claims?

Also, where's your evidence that Turkey and Saudi Arabia are responsible?

 

That duck appears wherever there are Soros instigated protests... or so I read. As for Russia, it is not leaving Syria. ..so guess again Litwin?

I think the big problem is not Syria but that Russia and China have dropped the American dollar and are on the gold standard. They are also making plans to trade in gold. Does this mean they are preparing themselves for an alternate economic system to avoid a depression? If so, does it also mean that Trump decided to change his rhetoric towards peace, and now wants war to head off the economic downfall that Obama brought on the world with his trillions of dollars in debt?

I'm just speculating.

 

That's ludicrous propaganda. Sarin gas isn't stored in weaponized form; that's a lie from putin pretending that the rest of the world is as stupid as the russian people/peasants who support him are.

 

"Elections"? Where? putin has run russia for almost 20 years, and the assad family dynasty for 50. What a joke.

 

Plausible to the clueless and ignorant. Sarin gas and other weaponized gasses are not stored in usable format, they have to be carefully and properly mixed, and do not last very long so their usefulness is limited. If the sunni fanatics had such weapons they would have already used them knowing this, assuming they did not kill themselves first trying, but there is no scenario where a bombed facility could spew such materials in a deadly, aerosol format. Either you are being lied to by the russian propaganda factory, which spews this nonsense all day, or you are doing their work for them.

 

What country is that? If its russia, putin should have been hanged 2 decades ago when he leveled Grozhny and murdered 100,000 civilians. Then again for starting a war in Georgia, invading Ukraine, invading and annexing Crimea, and helping slaugher a million people in Syria. Then again for murdering journalists and opposition figures in russia. When it comes to War Criminals and Crimes Against Humanity, other than iran's horrific regime few come close.

Since only russia and syria have jets bombing civilian targets in syria on a regular basis...

LOL, russia already admitted it cheated profusely on that treaty, just as it has on the intermediate ballistic missile treaty the past 2 years.

The hundred dead and more wounded are doing an excellent job of proving my point.

putin is as bad, if not worse, than any USSR leader. He's a monstrosity.

Russia hasn't abided by multiple treaties, including the Bucharest Memorandum when it illegally invaded Ukraine. As I said, it long ago admitted violating the CW treaty along with the intermediate missile treaty agreement. Russia is a despicable hole, which is why its population can't leave fast enough, at least the educated ones.

 

I'm here for like 2 hours and already I know you can't be taken seriously as a poster.

 

How can you say such a thing?

 

First of all - want to complain - send a letter to United Nations. Want to change something - mirgate to RF and vote. Want to have a close look at events, surrounding my country and government making decidions here - be welcome, instead of just making a list of every armed conflict that RF was in. Learn why, how, who, where, and when. Instead of just listing events and automatically assuming it is Russia to blame here.

Our airforce is not reported targeting civilians deliberately. Have proof of opposite - to UN you go. Have no proof - society have enough bigmouthed liars with nothing behind soul.

Proof? UN. No accusations without a proof.

Proof. http://www.un.org/ No propaganda.

From what I see in your postings - you know about Putin relatively as much as you know about Pluto.

And that is a direct insult of my country. Which is again - a normality, considering that I am Russian. Because we are on the Internet, and you are safe due to distance and anonymity. And because I am Russian. We're half-humans, right? 'monstrosities'.