chicago dissinformation forum

Yep... I very rarely note unless someone else has gone all grammar Nazi...

 

Even a fifth grader knows Stelter is a purveyor of untruths. Who would pay this guy to be on TV is beyond belief? He has no shame and can't be embarrassed.

 

Is there really a 'right wing conspiracy bubble':

 

Media On The Defensive At Disinformation Conference.

"There is no such thing as disinformation. There’s truth and there’s lies. Any journalist who talks of disinformation has swallowed the idea that there is an “approved truth” instead of competing streams of information. This is enough to condemn him in the eyes of any impartial observer."

"let’s start with the fact that Obama was the keynote speaker and trafficked in boatloads of disinformation right out of the gate. "

Obama authored the "Lie of the Year".

 

The college student was arguing that Fox News was complete, accurate, and unbiased. In what fantasy world would that be a question to Brian Shelter, or anyone else, who spent most of the time ranting and not really asking a question, or even follow up questions. The college student is all about perception, not really taking a very hard look at analytical facts. But then again, I guess he got in because of his race and not because of his socalled academics.

 

quote: college student was arguing that Fox News was complete, accurate, and unbiased. In what fantasy world would that be a question to Brian Shelter, or anyone else, who spent most of the time ranting and not really asking a question, or even follow up questions. really? not one time did the student say= that Fox News was complete, accurate, and unbiased. 2nd- or anyone else, who spent most of the time ranting and not really asking a question, or even follow up questions. really? just watch any q&a, and you will find the questioner asking one question then a follow up-then another follow up question. that is s.o.p. for any questioner. or don't you watch q & a sessions for the president (any president) senator, rep. do you?

3rd- quote: The college student is all about perception, not really taking a very hard look at analytical facts- hard facts? really? then just how many lib dems have cnn gone after-lied about-called for violence against? answer= none!!!! there are your facts. which you do----ignore!!!

4th quote: But then again, I guess he got in because of his race and not because of his socalled academics. yeah, like Hershal walker, mlk, and clarence thomas, and other blacks who speek for the gop against the race based lib dems who blame every thing on the color of someones skin. you really need to read up on the real ---(facts)--- instead of listening to the--pure propaganda put out by the racist left. but it is up to you what you believe.

 

LOL, so the video of Tucker Carlson talking to the college student and providing one small excerpt of the so called question while ranting about this so called hoax or that so called hoax is the Q&A you are referring to? I saw no question whatsoever. I saw GOP/Conservative media talking points that occur daily on their channels. Are you actually serious here?

Second, yes, it is about perception because no matter what facts are presented, Conservative media now is on the side of Putin in the war on Ukraine, especially someone like Tucker Carlson, Hannity, Newsmaxx, and OANN despite that Russia intentionally invaded Ukraine with no proof whatsoever.

Finally, i would seriously question the college student's academic prowness and to rationally analyze the facts. My guess is that he has already made up his mind, not willing to learn new things and will continue to go in that direction. For Hershal Walker, who was a great football player, is a person who has overemphasized his achievements in business and miscontrued his academic achievements. He never graduated in the top 1% of his class and never recieved summa cum laude. In fact, he went to the University of Georgia, but never actually graduated, according to his academic record. As for his businesses, I would call it mixed. As the second links says, "But an Associated Press review of hundreds of pages of public records tied to Walker’s business ventures and his divorce, including many not previously reported, sheds new light on a turbulent personal history that could dog his Senate bid. The documents detail accusations that Walker repeatedly threatened his ex-wife’s life, exaggerated claims of financial success and alarmed business associates with unpredictable behavior."

https://www.audacy.com/sports/ncaa-football/herschel-walker-lies-about-academic-record-at-georgia

https://apnews.com/article/lifestyl...rus-pandemic-5e2875eec11e93f9a3bf1fc859137ff8

 

Does the blatant racism in your slur of this young man bother you at all?

TABLES TURNED ON TATER: Tator Invites Guest to Trash Fox News, Gets Shocked When He Turns the Tables Against CNN.

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But, your fake news racist smear aside, Kalla merely and accurately insisted that Fox News isn’t the only guilty party.

I've noticed the same. So has every fair-minded American.

A clearly stung Tator had to fire back to defend his network’s 'honor'.

It was a fabulous exchange, watch it at the link.

 

LOL, what alleged racist slur?

BTW, repeating the same misinformation from obviouisly conservative biased news sources is not going to help your argument here either?

 

Youtube is an "obviouisly" conservative biased news source? Who knew? Do your cult leaders allow you to watch a youtube video and make up your mind, or do you have to wait for them to approve the particular video clip?

And yes, the following IS a racial slur.

Are you seriously unable to comprehend that?

 

YT video clip was from Fox News/Fox Nation, specifically from Tucker Carlson Show.

Or, I am challenging his intellectual prowess based on his extremely biased, myopic, illogical, highly misconception point of view.

 

And yet you stooped to racism. Minds infected with racism are well known to be extremely biased, myopic, illogical, highly misconception (sp) point of view. You should carefully to avoid racism so that you can evade this kind of terrible brain rot before it's too late.

 

Minds infected with modern progressivism can be even more bigoted, close-minded, and intolerant of any other points of view which threaten their own.

Maybe this has more to do with just human nature than actual ideological positions?

 

Yes. The Progressive Movement came out of the late 1900's Christian Church and brought all of it's hideous traits of judgmentalism, hectoring, hatefulness, self-righteousness, fundamentalism, dogmatism and socially isolative cultic qualities without the balancing virtues of grace, forgiveness, love, community and restoration.

 

Interesting how progressive liberalism has evolved over the years into progressive intolerance and authoritarianism.

 

The good news here is that the manufactured narratives are collapsing and the deceptions are becoming so obvious that the broad segment of our society can no longer deny them. As the deception falls away it's going to be very unpleasant for the clowns who used the "Postmodern strategies of deception and groupthink as their means of power." This Chicago Forum was completely taken apart by one young man and three questions, and there stood Tator and the entire of the disinformation Left, pantsed before a national audiance.

The hideousness of this is dying and with it an "entrenched system that could not sustain its delusions any longer" as we experience rebirth as a nation. We still have the debris of a "rotten aristocratic caste" to clean up, many so old that frankly they are probably simply going to finally be headed off to the old folks home while much brighter, younger people of integrity take their place.

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https://remodernreview.wordpress.co...t-take-on-the-symbolism-of-the-four-horsemen/

 

One of it's opening shots was prohibition. It's always been intolerant and authoritarian.

 

The Progressives that implemented prohibition are not really the same progressives today, though there may be a small overlap.

 

Well sure, prohibition began over a hundred years ago. At this point they have all died of old age.

 

Prohibition did set the precedent for later federal "possessions" laws including gun control.

 

really? here is the vid starting at 0:47 where the student asked the question about bias (my term) on cnn after they called many republicans which the student mentions. and stelter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6iZDcvhYZ0 so you are completely wrong in that the student (didn't) ask a question--just ranted.

quote: I saw no question whatsoever right! because you "didn't" listen to the vid. that is why you didn't see or hear a question. listen to the one i just posted above.
quote: guess is that he has already made up his mind, not willing to learn new things and will continue to go in that direction really? the student listed all his (facts) which you clearly ignored--or didn't listen to in the vid. and now you try to comment on this subject, which you clearly shown you know nothing about.
quote: He never graduated in the top 1% of his class and never recieved summa cum laude. In fact, he went to the University of Georgia, but never actually graduated, according to his academic record really? your going down this road? just look at your so called "educated lib dems leading the nation now. they have the other nations in the world --laughing their heads off at biden---got is with a 8.5% inflation rate. where as under trump it was low. after biden and his cronies took over by oct 2021 the inflation rate was up to 6.2% and climbing. yeah! your well educated idiot experts are doing a "bang up job" aren't they. not to mention the crime rate going through the roof in lib run states like washington, oregon, ca. and ill. just look at nyc today. real good aren't they. i wonder if you live in any city like chicago, seatle, l.a nyc. if so enjoying living there?

 

That poster seems to base its claims on what "received sources" say about the event, not the event itself. They refused to even watch a youtube clip, because it was used in a Fox News broadcast. If you have ever dealt with cult members, this will be very familiar. Someone groomed their trust, then completely isolated them, gave them a list of approved sources and told them to listen to no one else.

Tator: What do you mean CNN is partisan?

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For starters, I listened to the vid. That vid is a clip from the Tucker Carlson show. In that clip, it does an except of the student saying "CNN is right up there with them. They lied about the Russian Collusion hoax, pushed the Jessie Smollett Hoax, smeared Justice Kavanaugh as a rapist, smeared Nick Sandman as a white supremacist, and dismissed the hunter Biden laptop affair. This seems to go all in one direction and this seems to be all coincidence or is there something else behind it" That's not a question, that is a statement of opinion. Furthermore, it shows the lack of understanding of how media reports news and events, even the controversial ones. It's called contemporaneously reporting. When the Twitter YT video came out of Nick Sandmann, all the news reports, including the initial Fox News Reports, reported on this. People commented on what they saw, including Fox News through their programming. Later on when additional videos came out of the incident, then the news began reporting on that. Still, one did see Nick Sandmann have that smirk on his face. My only issues are the following. First, when students are on an official school trip as Nick Sandmann was, they represent the school during school time. That would mean no political signs or hats, and that you are to conduct yourself properly at all times. What should have happened to Nick was the school to discipline him because of this smirk smile towards someone, even when confronted by a Native American protester. Nothing about politics or racism, school discipline only. And police should have done a better job at separating the two opposing protests, the right to life protest which Nick Sandmann was, and the Indigenous People's March, both at Lincoln Memorial. If the police did their job correctly, the two groups and that infamous video would have never happened.

When the Jesse Smollett incident came out, most news media reported on what Jessie Smollett did. It was not until after the police did their due diligence that the opinionated programming of Tucker, Hannity, Laura, and others began to give opinions and a false narrative that people knew beforehand. BS because not even the police made that indication. It was only after looking at the videos and talking to the two brothers who did this, connected the dots. And yes, that same media he hounded on also reported on Jessie Smollett's arrest and conviction.

So, is this "student" using rational thought or is he simply regurgitating the conservative talking points and opinions he heard on TV from Fox without even thinking?

Bringing up crime statistics is not going to win arguments anywhere if you are trying to be "smart" you are. Most crime is based on opportunity and usually involves socioeconomic factors that are way beyond the control of any government entity, including law enforcement. So I would first start understanding why there is a crime and look at the worst cities on a per capita basis than just total numbers here.

Finally, I am not talking about other people here. We are talking about Hershel Walker and his false claims about what he said when he was on the speaker circuit. There is a ton of public information out there that disprove his claims. Even his own website took down the education claim and now says "life and football got in the way." BTW, you were the first who brought up Hershel Walker to begin with. Hershel Walker got into the University of Georgia because of his football talent, not his academics. The problem with Hershel Walker is that he lied about his academic achievements for several years while on the Speaker's circuit, among other things.

 

Name a news source that is not partisan Zorro?

And if you agree that news is partisan then you must also agree that Fox is too partisan, just in a conservative viewpoint. And if you agree that Fox is conservative partisan news, then you must also agree, to it's logical conclusion that there was no question, to begin with, and the student was mere regurgitating the talking points from a conservative partisan news source.

 

Actually, it was earlier than that, the 1880s. That progressivism leads to women owning property, women having the right to vote, the citizenship of Puerto Ricans, the first ever national park under Theodore Roosevelt, and so forth.