Chicago shootings: 39 shot, 4 fatally in weekend violence, police say

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How come shootings in certain cities never get the instant national attention as other shootings? No body, and I mean nobody, at least on the left, wants to talk about the mass shootings and murders in liberal cities, Bill O’Reilly used to say it was a genocide that was being ignored. Has CNN’s Lemon and Stelter ever addressed this issue? How about Joy Reid, the people most likely impacted by all these shootings are her people (apologies to Eric Holder for stealing his definition of his people).

    While terrible, When one person shoots up a place it’s not a sign of some sort of overall culture or tolerance. But when cities are racking up the murders year after year, it’s is a sign of culture and tolerance, and also a sign the cities don’t want to address the problems, instead they’d rather give fiery speeches condemning the NRA and Second Amendment. Those speeches don’t seem to be stopping the murders.

    39 people shot in Chicago and no one wants to talk about it because doing so is….


     
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    Man what are cops doing with their almost two billion dollars in Chicago? That’s a lot of donuts and blue line patches….
     
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    No one cares because the guns weren't killy looking and it's against the rules to say that they people are killy looking.
     
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    It is the leftwing racism of lowered expectations. The attitude that such criminal actions are to be expected by inner city blacks. It is akin to what i saw in college when there was a protest against the South African ambassador speaking at the Yale Political Union. I asked why no one protested say Idi Amin or Francois Macias when they appeared in the West even though they committed actual genocide and one of the protestors said-BUT THE SOUTH AFRICANS ARE WHITE. I think the same mentality is in play here
     
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    So??
    What is YOUR "Solution"?
     
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    Just their way of celebrating Juneteenth.
     
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    The guns weren't legal, so the banners are content that there's nothing more to be done. Now if only the rest of us would comply so our shooting deaths could be ignored too, 'the news' could be blissful again!
     
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    Let's follow your lead. We'd blame the mayor - wait she's a Democrat. Okay, blame the governor - wait, also a Dem. I guess we haveta blame Biden!
     
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    I know it's actually Detroit but ...

     
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    A libs always gonna blame Da Trumpsta
     
  11. Andrew Jackson

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    Huh?
    The question involved a Hypothetical "Solution"...
    NOT who to "Blame"...:bored:
     
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    Not to interrupt you two but there is only one solution. We have to come down on the black culture of violence that progs love and Dems are too scared to acknowledge. The 'black thug' identity should no longer be promoted, idolized, defended, or ignored.
     
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    Not sure how that can be accomplished.
    I guess the flip side of that is how does the GOP deal with Delusional Election Deniers and those who treat Alex Jones as Gospel?
    Big Tent gonna Big Tent...
     
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    Gonna be extremely difficult at best. It can't really be done unless you have a majority of black leaders doing that themselves as the change has to come from within - but the very people who try that get labeled as Uncle Toms. Oreos, and Self-Loathers. See: SuperBadBrutha. Heck, Bill Cosby - well, before he went full perv - even tried that and look where that got him: Nowhere.

    First step: Bring back the (black) father. Restore the nuclear family. That'd take at LEAST two generations, and I dunno who's gonna lead that - Obama? Second step: Create/restore some actual positive role models in the community. That'll take less time but ...
     
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    Deflection much? :bored:
     
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    Takes a culture to change a culture. I'd start with mainstream consumption; movies, tv, music, sports. Eliminate the slack jawed guttural grunting ghetto jiggaboo personality type from the cultural product lineup. Start elevating normal black people instead of the hood rat caricatures of what the White liberal dominated entertainment industry thinks black people are supposed to be.
     
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    It just occurred to me that opposition to bringing back the nuclear family might face opposition from feminists of all places - but that's another thread.

    I think I was trying to say that editing my post when you said this and I agree. It isn't enough for them to promote positive models, they haveta eliminate negative ones. But I also don't see that happening for about twenty years because there's so much energy and economy in your basic gangsta rap and heroes in prison. You eliminate the people "keepin' it real" and there goes at least half the economy, and 90% of rap.

    I mean, the next step would be creating a positive behavior regarding education and learning, but again - where does that come from when the general culture says that learning is what whites do and that education is for white and not them? I've had too many black kids say they couldn't do something because "I black". I get it less because I'm clearly not white but I definitely hear it from the white teachers I know.

    The next thing? Gotta teach the kids what delayed gratification is, and with THIS generation - almost impossible.

    Next step? Something I do with ALL my students - is teach them the basics of creating and sustaining wealth. I mean, it's pretty well known: Stay in school, get a high school diploma, stay OUT of the judicial system (i.e. don't break the law) get a job, and DON'T have any kids until you're at least in a position to afford them on your own and without government assistance. For the girls I tell them flat-out don't have kids unless you got a ring because that right there is the chief reason women (of all races) are living in poverty. Do that and you have only a 2% chance of being lower class, and - can't remember the number, 90% chance of being middle class? Something like that. It's a big number. And then after that, follow Dave Ramsey's Seven Baby Steps when it comes to managing money - or the equivalent of those steps. But as with all things, they gotta wanna save themselves and it's too easy to wallow in the gutter and blame others for why you're there instead of actually getting out of the hole and becoming an adult.

    I mean, I see this a LOT - victim mentality. My principal, who is black, will tell the black kids look, you're a black male, you already got two strikes against you, you can't afford to keep doing the negative behaviors that got you to the office. They gotta step up.
     
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    Indeed. If fixing popular culture were step 1, fixing education would definitely be step 2.
     
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    That’s more an idea than a solution. How do you do that?
     
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    Blacks themselves have to, as a collective group, realize that what they are doing ain't workin' and chart a different path. The solution has to come from within. Like I said - kinda unlikely. Change is scary.

    The funny thing is - Louis Farrakhan? Crazier than a bedbug but when it comes to pushing education and telling blacks to start dressing like a professional and get a job to promote real self-esteem? He's absolutely correct and to that extent, he has the solution.
     
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    What about the Obamas?
     
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    Please save the big cities. We want people to continue to live there and leave us alone out here.
     
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    Anyone who is interested in addressing this problem, and not just bringing it up to say “See? Blacks bad!”, should be seek to address the root problem. The drug war and massive income inequality.

    If you’re not interested in addressing these issues then all you really want is a cudgel with which to beat political opposition and the black community on the whole.
     
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    Income inequality is because the black family is destroyed. 75% fatherless homes. You can’t just scream income inequality. You expect those kids to be brought up with values and responsibility when the people raising them mostly have none of the qualities to raise them properly…exceptions not included.

    Obama had the biggest chance for change but he was a coward like EVERY Democrat as they continue to blame others when they need to blame the community and their policy of govt handouts. They have to look inward and stop the ridiculous race baiting and lies.

    Schools can’t change when the kids don’t care because the parents don’t care. Throwing money at it won’t change a damn thing because money can’t solve animalistic mating behaviors. You can’t have children unless you can care for them and that requires ideally 2 parents staying together and loving the kids. That’s simply NOT happening. Can’t rely on the rare case of a single woman taking care of it all. It’s insane.
     
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    Yet more proof America need federal gun laws
     

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