Chicago shootings: 39 shot, 4 fatally in weekend violence, police say

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    would not supprise us
     
  2. DaveBN

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    Would you be interested in a meta analysis showing that income inequality is a stronger correlative factor to crime than just poverty alone?
     
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  3. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Why mention income inequality at all. So because Elon Musk is so rich I have an excuse to go shoot some people and act a fool?
     
  4. DaveBN

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    Would you be interested in a meta analysis showing that income inequality is a stronger correlative factor to crime than just poverty alone?
     
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  5. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    That makes no sense. Because Jeff Bezos is rich I'm going to shoot people?

    There is one statistical correlation for sure. IQ. These shooters have low IQs.
     
  6. sec

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    asking for ID is now racist?
     
  7. DaveBN

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    Depends on how you go about it.
     
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    This is stupid to the power of 500!

    The brotha in the hood is unloading his magazine into a Burger King parking lot not just because he is poor and has few choices in life but because somebody else is rich? White man got too much money! WTF?
     
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    Hi, we need for you to verify your address and we need to see a form of govt ID

    that is how they do it around here; sure sounds racist to me
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    That's right! Jim Eagle!
     
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    I have served with soldiers of color, all which ended up being a pleasure, I wished you had not used strong words because liberals will not see truth in the word jiggaboo
     
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    Isn’t it amazing how Democratic violence with firearms is somehow responsible Republican gun owners faults?
     
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  13. Starcastle

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    LMAO...:D
     
  14. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are only identifying one aspect of the issue.

    So many programs exist that allow young women to have children out of wedlock and support themselves. Adopting my kids from DCFS care, I saw first hand how these young women see the State and the social programs as a game of "how much can I get". Pop out another kid, and I can double my SNAP! Have another baby, and I can double the Section 8 voucher value.

    These aren't accidental pregnancies, which is why your immediate run to abortion makes no sense. These are intentional and desired pregnancies. My daughters came to our house at ages of 6 and 3, and already somebody had instilled in them that once they get to high school they need to start having children as a means of "getting ahead".

    The left doesn't like to admit that their emotionally based policies CREATE more of what they support.

    If you incentivize and activity, then you get more of it.

    It's a severe problem. These young women have zero concern about the financial impact of having a kid, nor what it does to their own future. All they know is popping out a baby gets them free money.
     
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  15. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You seem to think these people are victims of these things. They are not.

    In certain cultures, they have embraced the idea of a welfare queen seeing ones ability to obtain benefits as bragging rights.

    I don't disagree with your desire to fix those things. It's the blame and responsibility I have an issue with.

    These people are being held down, they are holding themselves down.

    Making them victims, as you have done, is simply a lazy way to avoid the actual problem and pawn off responsibility on everybody else. It is now a generational cultural issue that exists.
     
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  16. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes. The left generally makes bad decisions on multiples.

    Like, generally their view of reality is so messed up they struggle with defining up verse down.
     
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  17. DaveBN

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    And sometimes, as was the case in the matter I quoted, they target forms of ID that black people are statistically less likely to have. That disproportionately affects black people. That is racist.
     
  18. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Got me.

    We have failed.

    We have failed to properly educate people to enter the workforces.

    We have failed at encouraging self reliance over dependance.

    We have failed at promoting career and technical skills or college

    We have failed at identifying the importance of dual parent households

    We have failed to provide real world skills

    We have encouraged and glamorized instant success and easy money


    Overall, we have now created engrained generational dependance. It's a massive problem.
     
  19. sec

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    In keeping to the topic, not having the required ID to vote results in indiscriminate firing of weapons and killing each other. Is that your position?
     
  20. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Spinning to Trump just makes you look silly, and sadly you have to be reminded of that.
     
  21. Buri

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    If you need to know the definition of those words maybe this isn't the thread for you. There are tons of trade jobs out there, it's not the job of the gov to give every dumbass a 100k a year job. We need those dumbasses serving coffee or whatever an associates in music is worth these days.
     
  22. DaveBN

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    Would you prefer the child/woman not be able to support themselves? What is the preferred outcome?
     
  23. DaveBN

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    Why are you getting hung up on blame and identifying victims? I’m just identifying the socioeconomic factors that contribute to gun crime and suggesting that we should work to address them.
     
  24. DaveBN

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    Nope, that was a non sequitur from another poster. I was just responding to it. Happy to get back on the topic if that’s what you would prefer.
     
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    Tell us what forms of ID those are. Like there are 5 million forms of ID and these states are selecting the ones blacks cannot obtain. A driver's license for crying out loud!

    And every damn state that asks for ID makes them available for free.
     

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