Christianity and Homosexuality

Ya right. Make up more stuff?
But age consent is rather recent in human history timeframe.

It wasn't long ago an 18 yr old woman unmarried was considered a spinster.
Mary, mother of Jesus, was 12-14 yrs old.

But as we humans have studied human minds, they have made the age of consent and have been moving it upwards because the human mind has not developed to make those kind of choices, supposedly.

 

That's a new one. jFK had hookers in the White House?

 

From an Atlantic article by Caitlin Flanagan:

"THROUGHOUT THE MARRIAGE, John always had girls: there were girlfriends and comfort girls; call girls and showgirls; girls on the campaign trail and girls who seemed to materialize out of thin air wherever he was. There was also the occasional wife of a friend, or the aging paramour of his randy pop, for those moments when the fancy ran to mature horseflesh or masculine competition. His penchant for prostitutes demoralized the agents assigned to protect him: “You were on the most elite assignment in the Secret Service,” the former agent Larry Newman told a television interviewer a decade ago, “and you were there watching an elevator door, because the president was inside with two hookers.”

Talk about a security risk.

He also shared one woman who was at the same time having an affair with mob boss Sam Giancana.

 

Pedophilia is a name given to molesters of little children. But, it still requires homosexual acts and behavior for men to molest boys or women to molest girls.

 

Males are males. Why don't they go after little girls if it's men molesting boys? Note that a pedophile man who goes after little boys never goes after little girls. The Catholic Priests are a clear cut example of this. Thy are homosexual based. If a pedophile went after both sexes, then they would be bisexual. Still homosexual.

 

No, they are bisexual. But, they don't attack or go after grown men because they need to dominate the individual as a power play. They fear grown men can defend themselves. And, they don't just approach gays because they don't want to be caught by their spouses and family. They think they can hide it from the world molesting a boy and get away with it.

 

How can an intelligent person view homosexuality as a choice? Like being left-handed or having red hair, gays are born that way. Only cruel/ primitive Christians could join radical Muslims in attacking innocent people. Maybe throwing gays off 6 story buildings to their death is secretly condoned by these false Christians who are as savage as those they condemn. Those who attack gay people are not Christians.

 

Because they are born with specific male or female tools. If they are only animals as you liberals believe, then they have only the instinct to procreate. Thus, instinctively, they are heterosexuals. But, because of our "conscious" mind, we are able to control our thoughts and actions the way we want to. It's called a "reprobate" mind. Changing things that are appalling into something that is appealing. "You are what you think about" and you are who you hang around. Put those two things together and heterosexuals become homosexuals as their minds change or reprobate.
Muslims joined radical Nazis in killing Jews. Does that make Muslims less Muslim?

 

When you speak all I see is an enemy. I am Gay and believe in Christ. To accept ignorance and call oneself Christian is why many view certain Christians as hate groups no better than the KKK.

 

Even back in the 1700 and 1800 hundreds, it was frowned upon for a man to take up sexual behavior with a girl under 18. So, you must be going way back to the time of old and new testaments? Yes, it was normal for boys and girls once in puberty to marry and strengthen the numbers of their tribes and communities. In our day, we want them to go off to college and have jobs for 10 years before having children. We can do that because we have birth control that actually works rather well and easily distributed. Yet, teenage pregnancy is still very high.

 

Frowned upon? Dude - it's been legal to marry women under the age of 18 in nearly every state from the beginning of this country. Hardly a "frowned upon" indication.

 

Correct. You have a reprobate mind. Of course you can't see what I see. You say you believe in Christ. But, not the Christ that had apostles that received message from Christ before, during and after his resurrection. If you did, you wouldn't cut out the pages that say homosexual act are sin. In fact, not just sin, but "VILE" affections. Romans 1:28, "And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient." Meaning not righteous. Psalms explains what it means for God to "gave them over" in Psalms 81:12, "So I (God) gave them up unto their own heart's lust: and they walked in their own counsels." Lustful counsels. You may say you believe in Christ, the Son of God Savior of the world. But, this says you are not retaining God in your knowledge. So, who do you really believe in? Not Christ.
As far as those who spend time hurting and killing gays and lesbians, that is not Christian. I agree with that. But, sounding the warning trump to gays and lesbians to repent is not hurting anyone. There are some that return to celibacy and even sometimes back to heterosexual relations with a spouse of the opposite sex. The KKK was a political arm of the Democrat Party established by the Democrat Party. I'm sure you didn't know this. The Democrat Party is the founder of Slavery as well as the KKK and other White Supremacy groups. I'm sure you are a member of the Democrat Party, correct?
So, to sum this up. I am a voice of the Lord because I'm preaching directly from the Bible. Specifically from the New Testament of Jesus Christ. If you see me as an enemy, I'm not. I believe that you should receive all the rights under our Constitution. I don't believe you should be subject to violent hatred. But, I believe in Christ and he has stated through his authorized spokespersons on this Earth that Homosexual acts are sinful and vile acts against Christ and God. Until you can show me a true authorized apostle and prophet of the Lord that says otherwise, I'm going to stick with Christ on this one.

 

Why are you even mentioning Christianity in the same statement as these ISIS vermin? No Christian is advocating that, they are the victims of this criminal behavior.

A bent toward homosexuality isn't a choice, but acting on it is, the same as a heterosexual tempted by fornication or adultery. God's standard for sex (He invented it) is one man and one woman in a life long marriage relationship.

 

To quote Augustine, if you only believe the parts of the Bible you believe in, it isn't the Bible you believe in but yourself. I'm sorry to say this, but if you're still dead in your sins and clinging to your rebellion, the Gospel is an enemy. Many people have been freed from bondage to the gay lifestyle, with God's help.

 

Then why the outcry of Joseph Smith and other Mormons who had supposedly marriages of girls under the age of 18? No, if you go back and study that time period, you would find out that the majority of people didn't see marriage under 18 much different than today.

 

Do you believe that homosexuals should be stoned to death [ie. Old Testament] like it is still done in parts of the MiddleEast? I am an old gay man who has fought for dignity and human respect. When so-called Christians want to hurt me than I can only view them as a threat not a Christian friend.

 

They are vomiting in heaven. You threaten me. You are not a Christian.

 

It threatens your sin and self will, yes. What do you do with the many Bible prohibitions against sodomy? Do you know more than God?

 

I know Christ my friend and that I am created in God's image. So-called Christians are guilty of wicked barbarity when they have the audacity to suggest that I am not a child of God. Shame on you but when you judge me you will need to answer at heaven's gate some day.

 

This isn't DonTom is it? No, I don't believe anyone should be stoned to death because they are homosexuals. Those that do this in the Middle East are Muslims, not Christians or Jews. It's interesting that in the prophecy of Jesus returning in the midst of his people in the parted Mount of Olives He says: Zechariah 13:6, " And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends." So, if Jesus can call those who gave Him up to the Romans for crucifixion "friends' Then why can't you? Are we not suppose to love our enemies too if we believe in Christ?

 

So, you reject the Bible? Then you reject Christ and really don't believe in him? I gave you factual evidence that homosexual acts are a sin and you still deny and personally attack me? Whoever is vomiting I assure you are not in heaven. I am a Christian but one who does not twist the words of Christ and his prophets (apostles) to suit their own fancy.

 

I have been the victim of Christian "friends" all my life. My gay friends are stunned that I remain an active Christian and think I am a fool. Lutherans are confessional Christians who view natural sexuality as a gift of God. Catholics are in a turmoil over sexual abuses of the clergy and primitive ignorance. Science is not something to be feared. Look up anthropology studies on human behavior and then tell me that I am a sinful person for acting on my natural instincts to love a person who happens to be the same sex as me.

 

LOL!!! Off your rocker today...Calm down dude. The world isn't going to end today. Even if the Democrat Liberals say it will, or in 12 years <snicker> You are a child of God. No one said you aren't. And, I'm not judging you. I am pointing out that Christ and his apostles and prophets preached the word of God stating clearly homosexual acts are vile sin. I don't know what you do during the day. I know celibate homosexuals that are righteous and don't participate in unholy and impure practices. To me, those are the real saints of God. We all will be brought forth to the judgment seat of God. God will judge. But, he will judge on the worlds he gave to us through his servants the prophets (Amos 3:7). For those that have received the words, we will be judged. For those who have not in this life will in spirit prison. (1Peter 3:18 - 20) Then, those person will be judged righteously.

 

Unfortunately, God will not judge based upon human secular writings. He will only judge those things He has given us through his servants the Prophets and Apostles. If you are going to ride your eternal soul on a train powered by anthropology Phd's, then you have a problem. Science Anthropology is a study, not a science. It's not given through a prophet of God.
Why you believe your natural instincts are to go against your natural state as a man, I don't know. I have my theories. Back in the 1940's large studies on why people said they were homosexual showed overwhelmingly it was because their environment. This was well before studies on DNA or Biology started looking into genetic and biological defects. So, what did it mean homosexual cause was from their environment? I suspect that most homosexual men were molested. Lesbians often through molestation but also through being raped as well, even when they were teenagers or grown women. I think the environment today with the bombardment in the media and schools cause young children and young adult teenagers to entertain thoughts of homosexual behavior in their minds. This causes that reprobate mind to begin to exist. That is my theory as I've seen it many times happen just as I stated.

 

Holy Carp !! It must be my lucky day - I have been searching for someone who has sat down with God for tea and therefor knows what is an edict from heaven and what is not.

Perhaps you can help me. In one part of the Bible it says adulterers should be killed (stoned actually). in another part it says "ye who is without sin cast the first rock" = don't stone the adulterer. Which is an edict from heaven and which is not ?


One more. In on part of the Bible God-YHWH gives and edict "Children are not to be punished for the sins of their parents". Then shortly after (not 1000 years later as in the other example) God-YHWH says that Children and Babies - and even the unborn - are to be slaughtered for the sins of their parents.

Which is the edict from heaven ? Is it that God-YHWH is some flip flopping, illogical, xenophobic God with the most petty and nasty of human characteristics ... or are you just making stuff up ?