Circular Reasoning and Beliefs

I am actually very surprised that nobody has simply copied these vaccines and broken the patents. I see little ethical reason no to do so. Maybe it's difficult to produce?

 

I would think so that it's hard to reproduce. But, these vaccines are being distributed. However, China and Russia are also distributing vaccines and other countries are going with them instead of the U.S. because Talibiden is a complete bungling fool. The world doesn't trust the U.S. anymore because of Talibiden.

 

The USA would consider that a criminal act and there absolutely would be economic ramifications.

Plus, I strongly suspect you are right about many not having this level of medical engineering and manufacturing capability.

 

You need a lot of other things to go along with the liquid, like tiny sterile glass bottles with seals and lots of special needles. IOWs, you need access to a sophisticated manufacturing infrastructure system.

 

The Third World countries need to get off of their butts and form an economic union where they can develop their own systems and capabilities. It is stupid for them to place their fates in the hands of the Western countries.

 

I know. We're so stinking rich that we've come to expect this kind of capability as some sort of obvious requirement.

But, when we look at the problems they are facing and the resources they have, it becomes more obvious why OUR objectives are not the ones THEY can choose.

For example, their first objective is to be able to feed their people.

 

China went from a starving country to a food exporter in a couple of decades. The Third World has to form an union and work as an unit to solve their problems. As long as they depend on the West they will suffer.

 

R of Congo? DR of Congo? South Africa? Libya? Morocco? Botswana? Tell me which countries are depending on the west.

 

I don't see that as a valid argument concerning the countries I stated - or many others.

China's government has performed VERY well in this dimension.

I'm not so sure you are headed toward an argument that you really want to make!!

Let's remember that one of the big problems in feeding Vietnam was that the USA had no answer for the land reform they so desperately needed. They didn't get that until we left and they instantiated their own government.

 

Do you have evidence that those countries are not dependent on the West?

 

??? What kind of "prove my negative" is THAT?

And, it doesn't even matter. Those countries are on the bleeding edge of disaster and have been for a long, long time.

YOUR idea that they could start decoding, manufacturing and delivering COVID vaccinations is just plain ridiculous.

 

I said that they breed to form an union where they can pool their resources and create their own infrastructure. Right now, they are dependent on the West for just about everything, although they have lots of assorted raw materials. It took America over a century before it got on the road to industrialization. If the Third World countries worked together they should be able to reach where America was in the 1970s in 20-30 years. If they don't unite they will always be pitiful. Imagine where States like Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Montana, Alaska, and Idaho would be if they were not part of America. They would have nothing.

 

I haven't seen any serious support for this idea that the Congos of the world can vault their way into first nationhood like that.

 

Its not vaulting, its nuking, you build an arsenal of nukes and you magically are noted as nation status

 

The topic was their economic status.

Creating nukes doesn't improve economic status.

But, you have a point. When Pakistan developed nuclear capability it dramatically changed the relationship of Pakistan and India, though it did not improve the economics of either nation.

These sworn enemies with numerous border disputes and other reasons for conflict had been using conventional warfare for many years. When Pakistan obtained nuclear capability, joining India in that, the conventional warfare subsided dramatically.

So, maybe your post is pointing out that serious analysts here and in other countries believe that nuclear capability CAN give that kind of status. In fact, some believe it would substantially reduce ME conflict if Iran were to get nuclear capability.

 

How long did it take America to reach its current state? And people still sleep and crap on the streets.

 

I'm not sure what point you are making here.

 

The point is that if the Third World countries formed an unified union and worked together that they could make more progress in a couple of decades while it took America over a century to advance from a hell-hole. And some areas of America are still Third World.