Climate science arrogance

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  1. onalandline

    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am fairly certain that the elites and power-hungry, money-hungry leaders around the world are not that concerned about changing weather patterns themselves, but what schemes they can come up with to gain more control and money.

    Guess what? After we are long gone, the climate will still fluctuate. Nothing is happening today to warrant an alarmist attitude.
     
  2. livefree

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    Denial and ignorance......nothing more.
     
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    It is ashame you and your counterparts are that way. tsk, tsk
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Alarmism...nothing more.
     
  5. onalandline

    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Common sense to most.
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No matter what happens to the climate as it changes, and change it will whether it is colder or warmer, economic costs will rise no matter what because of more development on the edges where volatile weather is the most prevalent. We are lucky right now because were have had fewer hurricanes and tornadoes but anytime we have one, it will cause more damage than 100 or even 50 years ago.
     
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    For instance, when Milankovitch cycles cause glacial Earth, to warm, and perennial ice melts, naturally, such as happened regularly, in 100K-year cycles, during the current, Quaternary Ice Age, trapped CO2 bubbles and frozen CH4 clathrates melt and evaporate, to trigger the usual, dramatic warmup, whereby CO2 goes, from 180 ppm, to 280 ppm, and surface temperatures warm, to cause an interglacial period, such as the waning Holocene Epoch, today.

    This process involves algae and bacteria, which grow, in perennial ice deposits. But when that ice melts, look out.

    The warmup is then under way. We won't be cooling, to return, to glaciation, sorry. There's a greenhouse effect, ongoing.
     
  9. onalandline

    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is true. If we want to shield ourselves from mother nature economically, we should only live in bamboo huts.
     
  10. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Instead of using our intelligence to try and do something that will only cost society more (and be unsuccessful), that is try to turn earth into a one temperature room, it should be used to do something we are actually good at and that is to adapt. More and more rich people are building on the edges so it will cost more and more when we have any weather related event.
     
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    It is a shame that you and your counterparts in the fossil fuel industry's astroturfed cult of AGW denial are so ignorant about actual science and so brainwashed and bamboozled. You've been lied to and manipulated into being the new 'Flat-Earther Cult' of the twenty-first century.
     
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    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
     
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    LOLOLOL.....when firemen show up at your front door to tell you that the back of your house is on fire, is that "alarmism"? Do you tell them to get off your property because you know more about fires than they do?

    Denier cultists are a hoot!
     
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    Denial of the scientific evidence supporting AGW might seem like "common sense" to some people but unfortunately those people are very ignorant anti-science retards.

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    Yeah, always figured that you were sleeping through all this (as well as your high school science classes).
     
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    I learned something there. I learned that when a wave form is going down it's going down and not up. Not sure what class you took but I think it is you doing the snoozing in class. But thanks for playing.
     
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    The Earth is warming up, both surface air temperatures and ocean temperatures are rising, ice is melting almost everywhere, permafrost is melting all around the Arctic Circle, sea levels are rising......the only "wave form going down" is your intelligence/comprehension index.
     
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    Wrong, wrong and wrong. And you aren't even following along. Sea ice is already volume added to the sea levels so that melting, which it isn't, but it melting adds zero mm to the sea level. Another class lesson.
     
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    When fireman show up at your door and they said they saw a show that said the back of your house was on fire but you go and see there is none, that is "alarmism".
     
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    Calling those alarmists that refuse to see any other point of view a retard, is an insult to truly retarded folks.
     
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    Try again!
     
  21. livefree

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    LOLOLOL.....you are soooo clueless......

    The "firemen" are the climate scientists and they didn't need to "see a show" to be able to warn you about the crisis you're facing. They are the ones with the ability and competence to be able to actually "go and see" if the "house is on fire" (the Earth is warming). You are far too ignorant and misinformed to know what the hell is happening. You're just parroting the lies, misinformation and propaganda that the fossil fuel industry is feeding you through the rightwingnut media echo chamber.
     
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    "My science" is science.....the science.....the science accepted and taught worldwide....your delusion that "science is wrong" is hysterically funny and very typical of you clueless anti-science denier cult nutbaggers.
     
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    Nope!........
     
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    Well if that's what you think, they're wrong! And the scientist who I believe have already explained it to them. Changes they be a comin. Hang on for the ride.
     
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    No unfortunately this is the common pattern - someone posts link after link research supported argument after argument and they get "duh nope!" in return
     

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