Complain to your sitting member about the CARBON TAX SCAM

I think you need to apologise to the forum for telling lies


JULIA Gillard says she is prepared to legislate a carbon price in the next term as part of a bold series of reforms that include school funding, education and health.


"I don't rule out the possibility of legislating a Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme, a market-based mechanism," she said of the next parliament.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/features/fed...se/story-fn5tar6a-1225907552000#ixzz1kw31xg00


Labor went to the election with a policy of putting a price on carbon.
Just as they did in 2007
Just as the Libs did in 2007

They were elected to put a carbon price in place
Just as they were in 2007
Just as the Libs supported in 2007

The only liar is Tony "Climate Change IS Crap" Abbott.

Someone who denies science is not a leader. They are a fool.

he people of Australia voted for a price on carbon. You deniers are forgotten.

Get over it.

 

The people of Australia voted for the parties that promised to take action on climate change.

They didn't vote for the deniers.

Get over it.

Climate change is real and action will be taken.

It is not "crap" as the leader of the Opposition says.

He is wrong.

 

They had a policy to place a price in carbon.

they did it.

How is this a "lie"?

 

Becuase when you say that you WILL NOT put a price on carbon when in fact you are planning on doing it, you are lieing. You can twist and squirm, wriggle and slither as much as you like, you can interpret and re-interpret, invent meanings and take things out of context, but you cannot get away from the fact that THEY LIED! and the lies will lay them in their political graves.
Now run along, your Labor/Green masters want their boots licked.

 

When did anyone in the Labor Party say they WILL NOT put a price on carbon?!?!?!

Gillard herself said on the eve of the election

JULIA Gillard says she is prepared to legislate a carbon price in the next term as part of a bold series of reforms that include school funding, education and health.
"I don't rule out the possibility of legislating a Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme, a market-based mechanism," she said of the next parliament
https://sslcam.news.com.au/cam/auth...on-price-promise/story-fn59niix-1225907522983

You appear to be the only one telling lies here.

You seem to be the one twisting and squirming.
And telling lies.

Labor policy was to introduce a price on carbon.
It was Labor policy in 2007
It was Labor policy in 2010.

This is what they were elected to do
That is what they did.

What don't you understand about this?

 

AND THIS

Thats when,

its in black an white no grey areas!

DO YOU UNDERSTAND ENGLISH?

nuf said.

ex-labor voter who feels cheated by liars.

STOP defending these liars and traitors

READ THIS AGAIN.

AND THIS

AND THIS

80% of Australians know the truth dude, time to wake up.


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Hey bugs dont forget to read this.

 

It appears to be you than cannot understand English. Learn how to read.
Putting a price on carbon was labor policy before the 2010 election. THat is what they were elected to do. That is what they have done.

Your denial is silly.

Gillard herself said on the eve of the election:

JULIA Gillard says she is prepared to legislate a carbon price in the next term as part of a bold series of reforms that include school funding, education and health.
"I don't rule out the possibility of legislating a Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme, a market-based mechanism," she said of the next parliament

Learn how to read and stop wring crap.

They went to the election with a policy to put a price on carbon. When they said there would be no tax - they lost many voters to the Greens. But they NEVER changed there policy of putting a price on carbon.

Time to face up to reality.

 

Yes indeed Bugsy, you are right of course. Just as you say Gillard and Swan always did plan to introduce a carbon tax. So when they said they were NOT going to introduce a carbon tax, when they said it was an 'hysterical notion', THEY WERE LIEING!! Thankyou for confirming it.

 

Hey bugs will you stop the lieing please dude.

This is what JuliaR and Wayne went to the election with.

Now do you understand these words, well they were spoken during the election campaign.

Most Australians 99.999999999% read that as NO CARBON TAX under a Gillard/Swan government.

That's how I understood it.

OOHHH expect you bugs!

Now we are being sold into financial slavery to the UN, World Bank, Wall street and you're still there thinking that they will clean the environment.

Hey bugs after a few years of the carbon tax when the results will be there for everyone to see how much of a big FAIL it is/was.

Will you come on here and admit that you were wrong?


Ex-Labor supporter - kick those liars and traitors OUT not only from office but from the country, for selling all of us out, they are not Australians.

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I think you need to apologise for trying to mislead the forum:

A price on carbon was Labor policy before the 2010 election

That is what they were elected to deliver.
That is what they have delivered.

And BTW - it is spelt "lying".
You should stop doing it

 

The PM said on the eve of the election:
"I don't rule out the possibility of legislating a Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme, a market-based mechanism,"

A price on carbon was Labor policy.
That is what they were elected to deliver.
A Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme, a market-based mechanism
That is what they have delivered,
A Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme, a market-based mechanism, albeit with a 3 year fixed price period to gain support of the Greens.

What about this don't you understand?

 

I haven't mislead the forum in any way whatsoever and you have confirmed it.

slither slither wriggle squirm. They lied, what is your problem? Why can't you accept it?
And BTW, they weren't elected, they got into office on the backs of minor parties and independents.

 

Yes you did - you told a direct lie:

They did not say they WILL NOT put a price on carbon

A price on carbon was Labor policy before the 2010 election

That is what they were elected to deliver.
That is what they have delivered.

You told a lie.
You should apologise to the forum

A price on carbon was Labor policy before the 2010 election.

That is what they were elected to deliver.
That is what they have delivered.


This is what happened. Why can't you accept it? Is it because you only believe what Alan Jones tells you? That is not wise.

The party with the support of the House of Reps has formed Government.
That is how our Government works

I'm sorry that you and Alan Jones can't understand this.

This simple fact is that majority of Australians voted for the candidates which supported putting a price on carbon.

The government has now done what they were mandated to do.

Put a price on carbon. A Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme, a market-based mechanism. Just as their policy said.

Denying it - like denying anthropogenic climate change - wont make it go away. It just makes the deniers sound childish.

 

Who did she say this to, someone in a backroom?

Did she stand out on national television and say this!

No because it would have turned millions of Australians of her and the labor party.

Instead she stood in front of national television and said,

And her side kick backed her up with,

Then she ushered it through the back door.

This labor party which is full of liers and decievers has to go.

The sooner the better.


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No - Australia's largest news organisation on the eve of the election. And it has been linked to in this thread already.

It's OK though - I understand that you don't believe anything unless Jonesy has told you. Is that right?

Lets try again shall we? Pay attention this time:

Julia Gillard: My carbon price promise

JULIA Gillard says she is prepared to legislate a carbon price in the next term as part of a bold series of reforms that include school funding, education and health.
In an election-eve interview with The Australian, the Prime Minister revealed she would view victory tomorrow as a mandate for a carbon price


Read more: http://www.news.com.au/features/fed...se/story-fn5tar6a-1225907552000#ixzz1lDfAFUDq

Yes she did. On Channel 10 if I recall.
But it is certainly there for all to see on the News.Limited pages

Sorry - it wasn't 2GB - so you obviously didn't hear it.

I don't think Jonesy really has your best interests at heart.

Yes - it did cause many people to vote Green.

That is why Labor has a minority government. She lost all of the votes of the people that wanted a proper carbon tax. Not just a market driven price.




You don't actually understand any of this discussion at all, do you?

 

So who said she won.

The fact that she was able to scramble a government together instead of Abbott should have sent the message to her loud and clear.

Aussies DONT WANT A CARBON TAX.

And then this!!!???

What a liar her word is sh!t fullstop.

Most Australians that voted for her did so because of the above statement.

She's a liar and a brutus, the sooner she's out the better.


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psssssst...the fact that her party formed the government is a good clue

Exactly. The majority of voters voted for the candidates which supported putting a price on carbon.

The government has now done what they were mandated to do.

Aussies want a price on carbon. That is what they voted for. That is what was deliverd.

Whether Tony calls it a "tax" or not is pretty irrelevant.

I wanted a tax. I didn't get it. I am disappointed.
What we got however is a market based mechanism with a fixed price period of 3 years..
It is better than nothing.

The Denier Party was offering nothing. That is why they lost the election

Don't talk nonsense. She lost votes with that silly "carbon tax" line.

Please - don't try Shakesperean references when you have clearly never read Shakespeare. It is just embarrassing.

 

Why didn't she do a cap and trade, because that would have made the companies cough up instead of the people.

 

Wow. This is seriously the most retarded post I have ever seen on these boards. And that is saying something.


I knew you were ignorant about this subject....but.....Wow. Even I didn't realise you were this clueless.


I don't know how to tell you this Champ. We DO have a cap and trade system. That is what all the grown ups (and Alan Jones) have been arguing about for the past 12 months.

Our Parliament has legislated an emissions trading scheme - aka "Cap and Trade"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emissions_trading
It will commence this year with a 3 year fixed price period.

What has Alan Jones been telling you?!?!?!?!?!


The companies DO cough up under the legislated scheme. Not the people.


I think you are confusing things with Tony Abbots "Direct Action" plan. He wants a Great Big Tax where YOUR tax money will go to the big polluters to achieve the same goals that Labor proposes.

 

OOHHHH silly me so we do have a cap and trade well i was wrong and you were right bugs.

I'm a silly duffy aren't I.

So in a nutshell can you please enlighten me again on how a cap and trade will make the companies pay and not the people?

How could i have got it so wrong?

Can you also enlighten me on how the cap and trade will really reduce emmissions? not the theoretical stuff been spouted but in real terms?

Does it mean that there will be no electricity for parts of the year if the quota is reached?

Will we have to sweat out some parts of summer and freeze during some parts of winter?

Because the only way to reduce emmisions is to shut shop for a while.

And last but not least how the cap and trade system will not affect just about everything we buy and use? After all every product uses energy along the way somewhere.

And no i dont listen to Allan Jones.

 

Seriously.

Unless you are actually prepared to try to learn a little bit about it. Don't bother posting again on this subject.

 

Well the same could be said about you bugs?

Anyway since you are not prepared to explain here is my version.

1. Cap and trade system will pass the cost of pricing pollution directly to the end user thats us bugs.

2. Cap and trade will not reduce emmissions, in fact emmissions will increase but on paper they will look like they have remained the same or have decreased, just exactly who will be monitoring emmissions?

3. The cost of everything will rise thats everything, food clothes and ofcourse energy.

 

People ho write (*)(*)(*)(*) like this:

get ignored.


Learn about a subject before posting. Don't be a goose.

 

Why is it that none of your believers ever bother to explain HOW its all going to work?

I'm sure 80% (non believers) of Australians would like to hear it!