Concealed Carry Growing

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Small Town Guy, Sep 17, 2015.

  1. Heinrich

    Heinrich Active Member

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    I feel a lot safer where I live, thanks.
     
  2. Heinrich

    Heinrich Active Member

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    You sound like a lover of guns.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's great. Of course the public's perception of safety and the actual rate of violence don't necessarily coincide.

    Hopefully you'll never be in a situation where two or three guys try to break into your house to kill you and your family, cause if that happens, I doubt you'll feel very safe without a gun.
     
  4. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So this is it then? You throw out a response with a subject about an object and when respectfully challenged on the veracity of your comments about another object all you can do is respond with is "This topic is about hiding guns from view when in American neighborhoods, not smoking some weed in Europe." and "You sound like a lover of guns."?

    I prefer you comment about the topic but I am not adverse to responding to off topic comments. I do however prefer an intellectually honest response to your topic switch when challenged on its merits. Are you up for the challenge?

    To answer your question, I enjoy guns, I respect guns, I am challenged by guns but I love my family, I love the idea of law abiding citizens being able to defend themselves from the evil human intent of criminal activity but I do not love inanimate objects.
     
  5. Heinrich

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    Such an event is unheard of in my country.
     
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    Such events are unreported in your country.
     
  7. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean it is unheard of in your country for would be murderers to get guns....where on earth do you live?
     
  8. Heinrich

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    To my way of thinking, it is preferable to live in a country where it is not necessary for citizens to protect themselves. Our police do a good job. It seems to me that the United States is like the Wild West.

    [video=youtube;h1PfrmCGFnk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1PfrmCGFnk[/video]
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    That will also not be changing in the immediate future.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where is this magical land that you live?
     
  11. Heinrich

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    I live in Spain.
     
  12. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you live in a place where criminals cannot get guns...where would this utopia be? Where citizens are not murdered waiting on the police, where rape victims are not raped waiting on the police, where illegal drugs are not obtained because the police are always there. Please tell me, I will move there!!! I love utopia. Please reveal the county in which you live.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Spain??? Spain has murder, Spain has rape, Spain has violent crime. I thought you lived in a country without crime? You mean your laws do not prevent these crimes because you haven't passed enough laws preventing an inanimate object from effecting death? WOW :roll:
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK so now we know, passing laws about guns doesn't stop gun violence even in Spain. Spain has illegal gun deaths and gun violence. Since Heinrich wants America to pass laws preventing would be murderers from acquiring guns to commit said crimes....I say pass laws preventing Spaniards from acquiring guns for violent crimes first...then we can talk.
     
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    Heinrich you do realize that in a 10 year period you had nearly 3000 gun deaths, Not caring about statistics, your laws still didn't provide protection from criminal elements from using guns to commit murder. Your cause is lost My Friend!
     
  16. Heinrich

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    AndalucĂ­a (Spain)
     
  17. Heinrich

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    Of course we have some crime but the ordinary citizen in Spain is very safe without being armed. The Guardia Civil take care of gangsters and hand them over to the local police.

    [video=youtube;6FX0WiiT52w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FX0WiiT52w[/video]
     
  18. Heinrich

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    I never said where I live is completely crime-free but our police can keep us safe and there is nothing like the violence against citizens that is common in the USA.
     
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    Spain. Your social demographic is NOTHING like ours. You don't have Democrat controlled cities with murder rates that shame the entire country.
    I'm 75% German, and 100% white, but my family first arrived as SLAVES of the English, in a debtor colony. Spain has no history of slavery. At least, not like ours.
    Spain has 23% unemployment overall, and 40% for people aged 25 and under. This doesn't look like a model that the U.S. needs to follow.
    I'll keep my guns, and I'll keep my God Given Rights, as confirmed in the United States Constitution.
    You can remain mired in the third world. You can trust that FREE MEN are not inclined to emulate you.
     
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    LOL, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Give up your first line of defense, yourself, for the illusion that a government official taking notes after your death will help.
     
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    There is not even a measurable fraction of the violence of the USA where I live. The only time I even spot a policeman in my town is when one of the local banks has a delivery truck outside.
     
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    Yes, so give up your right to self defense for an illusion of security. Got it.
     
  23. Heinrich

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    It is no illusion or delusion. I have never fired a gun in my life and I do not know anyone who has.
     
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    Ignorance is bliss.
     
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    There also isn't a fraction of the freedom. How are you enjoying your gag laws over there? How about the state confiscation of houses?

    Welcome to your police state my friend.

    You've given up all of your freedom in your country to feel safe.

    You have it much worse than we do.
     

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