Confirmed - Over 1,600 Civilians Killed In Raqqa By US, UK, Fr. Bombing Raid

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  1. Dayton3

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    I assume we are bombing targets of value to the side we're opposing in Syria. Otherwise we wouldn't be bothering. Contrary to what you believe the U.S. military doesn't go out of its way to kill civilians unless there is a very good reason to do so.
     
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    Assume? Not good enough.
    As for you assuming what I believe, stick to what you believe. Your projecting sucks.
     
  3. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    What would be good enough?
     
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    The Arabs hate us ( the West ) because they envy us.
    Our choices, our freedom, our democracy.
    And all this while they live under dictatorial Islam.
    What you cook is what you eat!
     
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    No at all, Israel just wants to survive and the Saudis just don't want Iran to overpower them. This is war and civilians die as in every conflict we've ever fought, no matter how justified. .
     
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    Facts.
    And Syria plays little role in US. Why do we care? Isn't Russia a side we oppose in Syria? Are we bombing Russian targets?
     
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    BS.
    If they want what the West has, the people would make it happen.
    Many are happy with their way of life.
    What they hate is us trying to meddle with their resources and their gov'ts affecting how they live.
    And likely, our killing them via bombs.
     
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    I wish you would stop using the term we applied to the U.S. For you "we" is Russia.
     
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    So Christianity is a belief that jesus is god except we have to exclude religions with which you disagree? Nobody told you that Catholicism was the original christian religion?
     
  10. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess then you're a Protestant who believes Christianity somehow miraculously popped up with the Gutenberg press and the printing of the Bible, and it wasn't established throughout the centuries through the martyrdom and miracles of the Apostles and Saints? Interesting!

    When you say there is no moral fault in taking the offensive you are right. It depends on the situation and the righteousness of the nations making that decision. That has to be based on an actual moral code, not on convincing people that we're being righteous through lies and propaganda when we're not.
     
  11. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As far as I know, Shia Iran never tried to overpower Sunni Saudi Arabia. What I did notice is that the Sunni's in the Middle East always established themselves as the overlords - even in nations with a Shia majority. Of course this would arouse paranoia in the Sunni population, so they projected that the Shia's, Alawites, Christians would want to establish dominance over them.

    As for Israel, well nations always used diplomacy to survive. It was an art that was developed over centuries, and maybe had Israel used it from the start and compensated the Palestinians in some way, instead of its hard handed method - which obviously doesn't work, the situation might have been different. As for Iran, they should shut up and stop the threats.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, I didn't realize I wasn't an American. :roll:

    Do you realize that you didn't capitalize Jesus and God, yet you capitalized Catholicism?
     
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    I do not and have never supported the war in Syria, nor the war in Iraq which precipitated it.

    That said, war is a disgusting beast and civilians WILL die in the process.

    The time has come to erect a large wall around the whole damn region and leave them to sort it out themselves.
     
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    If I was a selfish person, I could take a gun and shoot you and take what you have and consider it a very good reason. That is a criminal mentality. The difference would be if I or my loved ones were starving - but we're not starving now are we, and Russia is not holding food back from us is it? Quite the contrary, we're the ones doing it to others through sanctions as far as I can tell?
     
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    There is no mention or even the slightest indication of Catholicism in the New Testament.
     
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    yeah... and according to the Germans, the genocide of the Jews solved problems as well.
    Doesn't make it right.

    Or giving it a none nazi comparison.... according to you Al Qaida flying in 3 planes in some building is justified because that solved their issues.
     
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    We'll of course there are going to be civilian targets in the bombing of a city. That's the problem with terrorists intermingling with the public civilian population.
     
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    No because we were on the right side, the nazis and el quacko were on the evil side
     
  19. Dayton3

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    I thought their issues were U.S. troops in the Middle East? How did the Sept. 11th attacks do anything about that?
     
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    guess again
     
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    Ah... if it's right or wrong when civilians are killed depends if we do it or they do it.
    I don't think so, champ. That's being a hypocrite.
     
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    You tell me
     
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    No that's not what i said.


    Lets say a nazi regime was elected in the USA and people started disappearing.
    If i did nothing about it and i was killed by the a Canadian air strike my death would be fully justified. If my government is behaving like the Nazis. It's my responsibility to rebel against it and if need be losing my life doing right rather than to lose my life being fearful and apathetic while someone else does what i should be doing.
     
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    Patton was right. Millions of lives would have been saved and millions more freed.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can you post that quote?
     

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