Continuing Problems with Paleoclimate Proxies

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  1. Wynn Sayer

    Wynn Sayer Newly Registered

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    Uhm..yeah, I get it. They don't want money directly, just to gimp up the US.

    Global warming is all about wealth redistribution. Out of the US and to 3rd world countries. Maybe to some greedy globalists along the way.

    I'd rather spend 20 minutes reading on "Slow Burn".
     
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    I love the right wing misinformation machine - so many wild guesses so little fact

    You lot have just spent 2 Trillion dollars on a useless “war” in a foreign country - money you could have spent at home - but all you ever heard from the right was the drumbeat of “ money for the war machine “ because that is what is filling the pockets of the right wing donors

    But a report mostly written by volunteers, is somehow going to “drain American coffers”? I mean it really shows you don’t even know WHICH report we are talking about or that you are aware there is more than one
     
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    Q: Is it about "global warming" and sea level rise?

    A certain level of panic that supposed to ensue from that?
     
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    No sorry you are wrong - although it does touch on what we are currently seeing and why
    https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/#InteractiveAtlas

    But if you have not read the report why are you posting about it?
     
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    ipcc=global warming=wealth redistribution scheme.

    It's the pinnacle of arrogance (and ignorance) to think man can affect the weather to any significant degree.
     
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    I don't watch Tucker, and I've been shellacking climate panickers since 2011.

    I do my own thinking, that's why I don't jump onto the climate panic bus.

    Okay, so this one is from 2015-16.



    and here's 2014

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ce-trapped-academik-shokalskiy-climate-change

    What you're offering is definitely not new to me.

    2013:

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...ing_researcher_gets_stuck_in_ice_121091.html#!
     
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    Agreed!!!!! There is a particular formation of the mind that believes Man controls climate. If we do not control it, we play no role.
     
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    How many years have you played this game? When will you tell us how you control climate so we see how you do it?
     
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    And I have been debunking denialist bulltwang since at least the 1990s
    show me RESEARCH not some one off incident that really has little to do with research
     
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    Who said anything about “control”?
    Hyperbole!
     
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    Oh, so man can't control climate. Just what you have been told a hundred times at least.
     
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    Oh? On what internet platform was that, pray tell?

    Let me begin by saying there was no "global warming" BS in the 1990s. At all.
     
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    Is this their hobby or what?

    Surely they are not paid to dispense this swill.
     
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    How about "affect"? How are humans going to affect the weather?

    What human or collection of humans can go out into the Atlantic and stop that hurricane right now?
     
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    Actually when Clinton was president this started creeping in. Late in his final term.
     
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    Affect is control. I used to tell her when she showed up spewing twaddle. (her term)
     
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    On what internet platform?
     
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    AOL was the prime source. This was prior to Google.
     
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    In the 90s, the Democrats were still struggling to alarm us. But they lacked solid science. They still lack solid science when you think about it. We keep telling them over and over, their alarm is not working.
     
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    Yes science is both a passion and a hobby
     
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    There has always been “solid science” but there were still some areas of doubt - and that is easy to prove

    https://www.ipcc.ch/about/history/
     
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    Paleoclimatology remains a frustrating departure from the preferred narrative of the "consensus" climate scientists.
    AR6 and The Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum
    Andy May
    By Andy May The PETM or Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum was a warm period that began between 56.3 and 55.9 Ma (million years ago). The IPCC AR6 report (actually a draft,…
     
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    where in the ipcc reports does it claim that we can “control” climate
     
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    Another blog and a known site for peddling suspect “science” and misleading misinformation

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/watts-up-with-that/


    If this is such an important point why have they not used the errata feedback available to all to alert the IPCC especially since the article they link to is dated 2015

    note the weasel words under the pretty little map


    The estimated global average surface temperature for the past 150 million years. Modified from: Christopher Scotese, the Paleomap Project, link.
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/08/18/ar6-and-the-paleocene-eocene-thermal-maximum/


    Always always suspect Wuwt as a source as they DO have a reputation - a bad one
     
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    So it results in blogs. Is it your position blogs are solid? I ask since you rip blogs a lot of the time.
     

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