Corona Virus Update

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  1. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    I just corrected your false claim in your false thread.
     
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    just post the link, I would like to see it, if they got it wrong like Trump did, would like to see it, did it take them as long to get it right to as Trump it took Trump if they did?

    so basically your saying China, Trump and the Who all got it wrong in the beginning

    we know China and Trump did, maybe the who did too, but I want to see a link showing it
     
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    there ya go, now you got it... it was not a ban on all travel, Americans could still travel there, it was just a restriction on Chinese nationals
     
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    No you didn't.
     
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    And according to Dr. Fauci and other experts, it saved a lot of American lives and bought us time. Otherwise we might be Italy today.
     
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    Almost all the blame for this goes to China for not being forthcoming.

    I predict when this is over we're going to see a boom in US manufacturing as it is brought home from China. I believe Trump has said a thing or two about that.
     
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    they were as forthcoming as Trump, they got it wrong, yes both Trump and China share that blame

    that woudl be great, but I fear greedy corps would ship those jobs back overseas as soon as they could

    we need laws to reduce excessive foreign outsourcing and excessive foreign imports... make it cost corps as much to use foreign labor as it woudl to use American labor

    I say raise the taxes on the corps by 30% and offer a 25% tax cut to those corps that do not outsource America jobs

    if a corp is saving tons on labor outsourcing, they would not get the tax cut as they are getting a cut on labor costs

    call it the "Hire American Tax Cut"... any company that complained, you would know is a big foreign outsourcer
     
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    We disagree.

    I think Trump already proposed something like that.
     
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    There aren't a lot of corporate tax cuts to give anymore. :)
     
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    I have heard obesity being one of the factors which makes one more likely to get a severe does of the virus.
     
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    no he did not, he proposed a tax cut for the rich corps with no strings attached
     
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    If we ever get in a shooting war with China, maybe they will be kind enough to continue to fulfill our merchandise orders without delay.
     
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    No argument from me. The libertarian model of total capitalism is insane. Some things need to be controlled by the government.
     
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    not arguing that, just saying it was a lie that all travel between the usa and china was banned

    I think the spread had already happened before that, I think it was here in late December, early January

    I think had we had that data, it may not seem like it's spreading as fast as it does.... it's seeming that way as testing is accelerating

    had we started testing everyone with any signs of a cold in January, I think Numbers would of risen in January

    the models and projections are based on the data we have\had... I think we had incomplete data

    I also wonder if it really doesn't stay with people for months as many around here caught something around dec 24th and many still have coughs, ect... as it seems to come and go like the body fighting a battle and it's never getting over it as this is something new the body is learning to fight
     
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    How hot does it have to get to reduce viruses?
     
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    was wondering that too as some of the infected areas are warmer weather
     
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    one positive out of all this is we may gain some kind of immunity to future strains of this virus, that would of been deadlier if not for this outbreak

    may not make us immune to future strains, but may help us fight it off better
     
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    or india, will they handle all our IT infrastructure if we ever have conflict, I agree that excessive foreign outsourcing and foreign imports is a national security risk

    we buy a lot of China stuff and use a lot of India labor - soon they will be too big to fail

    I supported Trump in banning china making all the 5g towers in the usa, but then Trump backed off that even after he called it a national security risk
     
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    So, in fighting between taking a risk to getting something to drink, or staying indoors to keep safe from the Coronavirus, I....took the risk. And so I got to experience what the real world is like during this Coronavirus. As I was walking down the sidewalk, there was this one dude who darted really fast away from me. It was almost kind of comical, because if you didn't know the circumstances you'd think I was holding a dagger or something like that.

    Then as I approached the gas station, some ladies were coming out of the door and to "hold" it, I pushed it wide open. Normally, this would be considered incredibly rude, but again in light of the circumstances pushing the door open is "holding" it for others now. Once I got in the store, no one else was there so as I figured out the best priced drink, I went and got that.

    And then it was comical between me and the cash register because it's like "Yeah, I'm supposed to give you the money but we don't wanna touch" lol so sliding the money in between the glass window and him taking the money was comical. As was when he gave me the change and the bag for me to put the drink in.

    I got home meeting no one else. So in told, I saw four people, we all did our best and now I'm back here at home. This thing is 20 days right? And at least 5 days to show symptoms so, around the 26th-ish I think I'll be able to tell if I'm going to be owned by this thing or not.
     
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    that is why I said "I say raise the taxes on the corps by 30% and offer a 25% tax cut to those corps that do not outsource America jobs"

    that is only way could do it

    trump could have done this too, give his same 15% tax cut to the mega corps... but only to those that did not use foreign labor
     
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    We'll find out, hopefully similar to other flu seasons.
     
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    I don't think I said that, but at least admit that Trumps China restrictions saved a lot of lives and bought us time, according to the experts, and that Biden opposed that move.

    Very possibly, honestly I think I may be getting over the coronavirus, first flu in 14 years, and it came with the dry cough.

    Yes, there may be hundreds of thousands infected for all we know.

    That wasn't possible given the system Trump inherited, it was set up for doctor/patient relationships, not testing by the million. Dr. Fauci said the test shortage wasn't Trump's fault. He's doing his best to change it.

    Maybe.
     
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    Missed that.
     
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