Coronavirus: Florida and Texas reverse reopening as US cases pass 2.5m

No, they are not. The goal was always to stop the spread of the infection. It was the long term goal which would come after flattening the curve...but we can't even do that one.

 

Check your news, big guy. Testing IS mandatory in locked down buildings. Border IS closing/closed. Statewide lockdown is virtually inevitable at this point, and will be much tougher than the last one. Will be as per New Zealand's.

As for the protests .. it doesn't matter a good god-darn whether protesters directly infected communities .. the MESSAGE that it was safe to gather in crowds was loud and clear. Full culpability remains.

Finally, whether protesters were personally Green voters or not, the vast majority of Victoria's Left supported the protests. Ergo, Dan allowed them for political expediency. He needs to be held accountable for that.

 

Even if that is true (links required), that wasn't the claim you made.

At this point any claim you can't reference with credible links and facts should be assumed to be false.

But was not when you made the claim. Additionally, the border won't be completely closed. Locals will have some ability to cross.

Maybe, maybe not. We will see how much the virus spreads.

You need to re-read my post. That claim was directly addressed & debunked by the Chief Health Officer. I get that you are a 'make up your own facts' sort of person, so I don't imagine you being repeatedly told this will make a difference.

Funny how you don't seem as keen to blame the anti-lockdown protests, which actually encouraged people to break lockdown and preceded people changing their behaviour rather than following it. Seems that the politics of this is of far more interest to you than the facts.

Not even bothering to defend another false claim I see.

Andrews publically oppossed the protests, as he did the anti-lockdown protests. Neither were banned. Police rounding up hundreds of people and putting them into a confined space would have done far more to spread the disease than the protests ever did. And we know that they didn't.

So, all we are left with is you making up stuff for political reasons. Very classy.

 

The residents locked up in their apartments are being compulsorily tested.

I knew about the border. Let's just say 'inside info'.

Very maybe. It'll be a minor miracle if Vic escapes another round of hard lockdown.

It doesn't matter a DAMN whether not a single infection came out of the protests. The message did just as much damage.

NO protests should happen. I don't care if it's protesting to save kittens from being eaten by Dan Andrews. This is much bigger than politics.

None of what I've posted is made up. And it's precisely because it's bigger than politics, that any politically expedient mismanagement must be exposed.

Edited to add: It surprises no one in this country, that Victoria is the weak link in the chain. Even Victorians are fed up at this point.

 

The price of putting government in charge of the whole thing.

 

TMC leaders denied that going above 100 percent for the first time during the pandemic suggests they’re in crisis. They noted that ICU units want capacity to be between 90 percent and 95 percent and that it is not that difficult to flex up or down because of sudden influxes of patients. It is not uncommon during active flu seasons, they said.

 

How is something that is not "uncommon" newsworthy?

 

I think if I lived in a state where thICU's were at 100% capacity and new cases of a deadly virus kept being reported every day in record numbers. I might tend to be a little nervous even with assurances from the president that these are merely the dying embers. of the Carona hoax.

 

Almost every time people can't do what they want to do it makes the news.
Explained: The temporary ban on elective surgeries in some Texas counties amid COVID-19 pandemic

 

More testing = more cases... Testing positive does not mean you will become seriously ill or for that matter dead..

There is a reason they are hyping "cases" now and not deaths as the mortality rate is plummeting.

 

Do you ever get tired of moving the goal posts?

 

The mortality rate is not plummeting anymore because, as we have said for weeks now, deaths are a lagging indicator and when cases spike, the deaths will follow a weeks later.

 

Its been dropping for 10 weeks so i could care less what "we" say.

 

What are you going to say when we say. Look at this, as expected the death rate has gone up significantly following the rise in the number of cases?

 

Really?

 

It dropped in the lull between NYC and the rest of America. Unfortunately it's going to go up again.

 

Is it currently, i.e. the last ~4 days in a row, rising?

 

Source less charts are useless.

 

Your posting in a virus thread and you don't recognize where it's from? Where did you get your data?

But it's okay. We can just add another day.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/

 

And, speaking of Florida:

Florida's staggering new single-day US state record of coronavirus cases underscores how the aggressive opening strategy championed by President Donald Trump and allied governors is turning into one of the worst political and economic calls in modern history.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/13/politics/donald-trump-florida-coronavirus-reopening/index.html

 

If its anything like Florida the numbers are not even close to being accurate..

Orlando Health alone was reporting a 98% positive rate and revised it to 9% when people questioned it... We have clinics reporting 100% positive rates.. And yet we are closing stores or having to wear masks on these "official" numbers..

 

Maybe DeSantis should get that little blond girl back to whip it into shape. But of course he couldn't hide the real data then.

 

The initial deception starts with the medic in the ambulance and the clerks at the hospital, but they are mere pawns in a very bizarre chess game.

The system benefits financially, and so that's why the numbers are being enhanced, bureaucratic future prospects.

 

Of course you haven't noticed hospitals are going broke because Covid doesn't pay as well as elective surgery.

 

If you look at the reports from the Florida Department of Health, you will notice that there are only a very few reporting agencies that refrain from reporting negatives. The impact on the overall numbers in Florida is rather minimal.

Florida is very much in a bad way right now.