Costs Of Illegal Immigration...

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  1. protectionist

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    Undocumented immigrants ? HA HA ! That's a good one. Illegal aliens are neither undocumented (with all their fake IDs), or immigrants. To call an illegal alien an undocumented immigrant, is about the equivalent of calling a bank robber an informal withdrawl agent.
     
  2. 1AmericansView

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    Maybe that's what is needed to for Democrats to support Bank Robbery. just change the title ;-)
     
  3. Third Mexican Empire

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    If people like you exist in America, then the US is already dead.
     
  4. Third Mexican Empire

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    Apparently all that is needed for Republicans to think something is true is for another Republican to say it
     
  5. 1AmericansView

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    I'm not a republican so good try.
     
  6. 1AmericansView

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    No sorry. The U.S. is very strong. even with the illegal invaders coming in and trying to lower the standard of living in the U.S.
     
  7. Third Mexican Empire

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    Yet you still claimed it as fact...
     
  8. Third Mexican Empire

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    Standard of living is not they way America is going to die

    You people are the disease, not illegals.
     
  9. 1AmericansView

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    No actually it is the illegals.

    The Illegals who bring drugs into our country. who come and start violent gangs. Those who come and have kids so they can get on welfare.

    Those who work for cheaper. and steal jobs from Americans. those who use the ER as a hospital costing medical care to go up for Americans.

    Those who bring all the other crime into this country.

    As was stated. Illegal Aliens killed more Americans in the last 10 years then 9/11 and the war on terror did.
     
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    I didn't claim anything was true.

    Illegal Aliens are mad about being called illegal aliens. but that is exactly what they are.

    and like the guy said.

    Its just like changing the title of a Bank Robber to something else. it does not change the fact that the Bank Robber has committed a crime.

    Just as by changing the title of illegal aliens does not change the fact that they came here illegal, they are breaking the law. and their first action in this country was to break the law.
     
  11. Gator Monroe

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    Illegal Immigration over last 50 years has cost America & Taken toll on Infrastructure & Ecology far more in $ ammounts than the Korean War ,Vietnam war, Grenada, Lebanon, GW1 & EVERY OTHER CONFLICT up til now
     
  12. Third Mexican Empire

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    You claimed Phoenix had 1 person kidnapped every 23 hours, but the statistic had not been confirmed by the US government or INTERPOL, it was just something McCain said.

    I have serious doubts in your claims
     
  13. Third Mexican Empire

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    You really expect me to believe that?

    :roll:
     
  14. Gator Monroe

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    Why not ?:date:
     
  15. Gator Monroe

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    California Illegal Immigration costs alone cover 2 of those wars.
     
  16. Albert Di Salvo

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    For me America is dead. It was murdered by the poverty and ignorance of Mexico which streams north in unending waves like uncontrolled flood waters. Your people have made my home into little Mexico...third world, uneducated, dependent for handouts, and drug addled.
     
  17. 1AmericansView

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    Here is another 1. that has nothing to do with McCain http://www.drugaddictiontreatment.c...apping-capital-as-drug-cartel-wars-intensify/

    Here is another one. but you might have trouble understanding it. and will probably go off in the wrong direction since they talk about fraud in the numbers.

    You will see that in 2008. Phx said they had 358. which makes 1 kidnapping every 23 plus hours.

    After you read down. you will see that Phx actually had 668 kidnapping cases but not all of them have been counted for one reason or another.

    you could go a simple internet search and find many reports to show the high kidnapping, and crime rates of Phx. but its much easier for you to just make statements, that its not true. even though the evidence is there.
     
  18. Third Mexican Empire

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    Yes, MY people. We are the root of all problems. There is no one to blame but us.
     
  19. 1AmericansView

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    Here are some numbers to show what Illegals cost the U.S.


    We have 23,626,493 illegal aliens. and I've heard #'s that reach more then 30 million. 609K of those are places other then Mexico.

    They have wired more then 37 billion dollars to mexico since Jan of 2006. that is 37 billion taken out of the U.S. Economy.

    They have wired 311 Billion to Latina America since 2001.

    Social services for illegal aliens have cost the U.S. 397 billion since 1996.

    since 1996 Illegal aliens cost the U.S. 177 billion.

    We have 459,442 illegal Aliens incarcerated. and since 2008 that has cost us 28 billion.

    we have 783K illegal aliens that have committed crimes and are now fugitives from law enforcement.

    and since 2002 we have had 6 million anchor babies born in the U.S.

    In the U.S. we have 14 Million Americans out of work. and we have 12 Million jobs taken by illegal aliens.

    If we sent all the illegals back home where they belong. We would have a unemployment of less then 2 million Americans. that would be a huge reduction in cost that the U.S. is paying in unemployment. and a increase in taxes from Americans going back to work and being taxes.

    If you figure that the 14 million Americans get 200 (low number for unemployment) we are spending 28,000,000,00 a week. in unemployment rates.

    now if we put Americans in all those jobs. we would be spending 2400000000 on unemployment a week.

    that would be 400,000,000 savings a week and 20,800,000,000

    So the 100 billion that is claimed illegal aliens cost Americans each year is extremely low. since we are spending almost 21 billion (actual numbers are much higher) on unemployment just for the Jobs Americans could have but illegal Aliens have stolen.

    You can find more information on this at another post. Click Here
     
  20. 1AmericansView

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    No the Politicians are to blame as well. Here and in Mexico.

    The Drug Cartel is to blame, for the violence they have caused in Mexico.

    The 30 Million Illegal aliens. who have come to the U.S. illegally could have made a huge difference in changing the country in Mexico. instead of demanding more rights while breaking the law here in the U.S.

    American's are at fault as well. because of the leaders we have picked have allowed this to go on for so long instead of holding our leaders accountable.
     
  21. Third Mexican Empire

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    And how exactly was the ranking achieved? I'm sure that's the number of kidnappings in Phoenix, but what about those in Honduras? Colombia? other cities in Mexico?

    Just because they have less than Juarez, does not make them 2nd.
     
  22. 1AmericansView

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    We were not talking about them being first, 2nd, third or any other position in the line of how many people are being kidnapped.

    We were talking about the number of people being kidnapped and that did tell you.

    (359 in 2007, a 10-year high, 366 in 2008, and 302 for the first 11 months of 2009)
     
  23. Albert Di Salvo

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    There are many to blame. However, the source of the problem is with the Mexican political and economic elite. They comprise several thousand families. They enjoy Mexico's wealth. The most important thing for them is to maintain the status quo instead of educating and creating jobs for the Mestizos. They use America as a safety value to prevent pressure for change from building up in Mexico.

    The Mexican elite send their impoverished and ignorant campesinos north each year in collaboration with Big Bussiness owners who wish to use the campesinos by paying them little and then throwing them away.

    The American left sees these third worlders as new voters to permit them to seize control of the American political system.

    These campesinos are a form of Mexican imperialism. That is why your online moniker is so well chosen. Your name represents imperialism.

    Your brothers and sisters use the American system of social welfare benefits while transferring untaxed tens of billions of dollars into Mexico and out of America each year.

    I live with your brothers and sisters. I know them. They are some of the most ignorant, dirty and impoverished people in the world. They have ruined my land. Opinion is informed by real life experience.
     
  24. Third Mexican Empire

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    It takes a lot to make a difference, especially against people with guns.
     
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    yes and 30 million people could have made that change. but they chose to run instead of fighting for their own county
     

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