Could Putin Quit?

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Aleksander Ulyanov, Nov 19, 2017.

  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Again, I must apolgize for not being clear. I wasn't saying anything was good or bad but that no one could blame the Russians for interfering in our elections when Trump gave them the chance
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Ever since we were drawn into not one, but two world wars. :peace:
     
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    Nothing like Prussian precision. Here they are in Chili glockenspiel and all. My favorite is watching the leader with the baton. WOW. (I like the goose stepping too).






     
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    I'll see your Chilean band, and raise you one pipe band.
     
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    Not according to Brookings Institute think tanks, aka Washington lobbyists. You better peddle it elsewhere.

    If he is married to Alina-Kabaeva, and I think he is because he seems a lot happier than he was years ago, she married him because of who and what he is. You know when we're talking about money, there's a difference between living a good life, and living the life of a Russian billionaire... with yachts and everything else. I'm sure between Putin and Alina they have enough to live a pleasant and comfortable life. It's where someone's priorities are.

     
  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Both of which came about mainly because we DIDN'T interfere correctly, or soon enough. The USA has been probably the premiere world power since the 1890s. We can't really be blamed for not knowing it at first, because no one else did either, but by WWII we should have figured it out (though again, none of Axis powers did either). A cancer like Nazi Germany should NEVER have been tolerated and the only reason it really was was the affection even the sternest parent has for its most psychopathic child.

    Lest I be assailed for condemning the US for not doing the very thing I recommend it not; understand that I think a really powerful nation should and must interfere in world affairs, but it should also try to do so correctly. That can be very difficult but lots of necessary things are, both in diplomacy and life, that doesn't excuse either not doing necessary things or doing them badly; and I believe you can do both if you are flexible and not doctrinaire, a main reason I am against conservatism in general.
     
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    We had an isolationist attitude (Trump's attitude) prior to WWI, and if I'm not too mistaken, continuing prior to WWII, so of course we didn't go rushing off to interfere. Nor was it quite so clear early on what a "cancer" Nazi Germany was. It was a resurgent Germany with a leader who wanted to make Germany great again, and the anti-semitism and white supremacy of Nazi Germany was not unique at the time, but widely shared in Europe, the UK and the Americas, sadly. Given all that and the fact that no one could really have foreseen the future and known what Europe was in for, it is understandable, again, that we didn't just go rushing on in.

    Not sure how we could interfered "more correctly," though, apart from jumping in sooner contrary to public opinion. We all know it took certain spectacular events like the sinking of the Lucitania, the Zimmerman Telegram and, of course, Pearl Harbor, for the people to be rallied and supportive of risking their necks to go invade places like Japan and Germany.
     
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    you're nitpicking, tasteless or not, the point was there are lots of apartments that are up to high standard, you can choose to your taste, and don't try to cop out by changing the subject to a matter of tastes, which is rather vague, because look at Joachim Low and his tastes -



    so it isn't up to you Germans get started on the matter of tastes, for you'd better sort out your own, in the first place.
    not only that but also my own bathroom, kitchen, living room - i.e. entire apartment of my own; and your question shows that German authorities and their servile media have brainwashed you to such an extent that you went blind with ignorance and bigotry.
     
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    I find it amusing that you bring up an individual and project it on 82 million. We Germans are individuals, not collective hive mind like you. I could post hundreds of disgustinb russians here, but why should i? Evryone knows how primitive your people are. I did not like what i saw in your country. You want force me to like it?
     
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    same as you do, and you can't prove the rest of Germany's not the same, taking into account Germans' predilection to fecal humor and stuff.
    nope, tell me more, and it is you Germans who come off as primitive, judging by your collective mindset, that shows in your posts on here, specifically.
     
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    Its funny that you bring up fecal things. We connect this with russia. We see you as unclean, shabby and smelly. But you know we think like that about you.
     
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    because you're primitive, thats why; you have no idea to first look at yourselves, instead you look around for someone else to blame, you live in a bubble, see.
    no, thats news to me, and if this is true, then it's about time to do again that 1945 routine on you guys.
     
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    Sobo...relax a bit, kameraden. I hear you about the russkis, but it's no longer " east Germany", but Germany now. I was at former checkpoint charlie in 1990 and saw the German military helicopter carrying one Of Lenin's statues for melting down, perhaps! :))
     
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    barbarians, they destroy monuments to their own man. Lenin was half German.
     
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    In my city Gotha the soviet cementary was plowed and the soviet monument cracked down and replaced with a magnolia. :) The bones of your fallen ended on the garbage of the garden center.

    You want do the 1945 routine? Which one? The one where you throw so many of your men into death until we run out of ammo again? How much did we kill? 26 million?

    Its also interesting you dont know how low we think about you.

    Most here see russia as backwarded. Dirty and smelly. In movies russians are shown as bit stupid and that you wash potato in the toilet.
     
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    That's pretty disgusting, I have to be honest. Germany even has cemeterys for fallen nazi soldiers, but you bulldoze Soviet ones? They were human beings too.
     
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    That crap was build in the middle of our castle Park. They had the Option to relocate the Bones to Russia. They did not answer so it was removed.

    And there are no "Nazi soldiers". We honor our fallen soldiers. Just as you honor yours. So spare me such one sided rubbish.
     
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    The only reason the Nazi (nationalist) party came into existence is because of the criminality and internationalism of the Bolshevik revolution. There was a rise of communism in Western Europe at the time as well, so it was cause and affect. It's going on today in Europe as well. The rise of nationalism in Europe is a reaction to globalism and its one world government. As they say, those who don't know history are bound to repeat it.

    Two million Russians emigres ran into Europe and spread the tales of what was going on in Russia to the world... and the Europeans were appalled, so the result was fascism and the racist extremes of Nazism in Germany.
     
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    Are there any cemeteries of German troops in muscovshchyna? I only saw one small plot in Ukraine of about 50 outside Kyiv?
     
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    26 mln, is a rough figure, it's probably more, no one will know for sure how many, russkis didn't keep accurate track, and stalin through bodies like firewood onto a bonfire:)).
     
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    And here's the German cemetary in a more civilized nation... and I say that with tongue in cheek.

    Beautiful cemetery for Germans killed on Crete during World War II.
    The cemetery overlooks the Maleme airfield captured by the Germans and the site of the paratrooper drops to open the Battle of Crete on May 20, 1941.

    It was the first time German troops faced mass resistance from a civilian population. Townpeople killed many of the paratroopers as they landed.

    The cemetery contains the bodies of 4,500 German soldiers. It's one of the few sites across Europe that remembers the aggressors of the war.

    It's a beautiful cemetery. Headstones lie flat and are surrounded by ice plant.

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    The following is something I came across as I was trying to find out how many Greeks had died from famine under the Nazis.

    When the Swedish Red Cross brought food to a town at the end of the war, there were German soldiers who were hungry as well. The priest told the Swedes to feed them first, because they have a long way to travel.


    Anyway, as a recent Saint said when he was told the terrible things the Germans did to them. He said they are good people, because the Greeks killed a lot more Greeks in the civil war than the Germans did. Besides that they were under orders.

     
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    Soba, why do you provoke others with insults? It seems very problematic to me?
     
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    The Nuremberg defence didn't work.
     
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    I know. Its crazy. Historians say for each killed german soldier did between 16 and 22 russkies bite the dust

    Oh and for those who want see how it was demolished here :)

    This was it:

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    People already ripped the letters off

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    removed

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    Much better now

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