COVID Vaccine Research

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  1. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    With the rollout of experimental covid vaccines over the past couple of years, would you be willing to participate in an actual known study and clinical trial? Who wants to be a guinea pig, you'll get more than just a lollipop for your participation.

    Would you roll your sleeve up?

    In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, our policy support team has been closely monitoring publicly available information on COVID-19 vaccine candidates. We have used information from international platforms, including the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Coalition of Epidemic Preparedness and Innovations (CEPI), national regulatory institutes, clinical trial registries, vaccine developers and manufacturers, and scientific literature to develop the content on this page. Our focus is to understand the current state of development of COVID-19 vaccines and clinical trials. For the most up-to-date information on COVAX.

    https://www.ncirs.org.au/covid-19/covid-19-vaccine-development-landscape
     
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    "Would you roll your sleeve up?"

    You would have to be out of your f#$king mind.

    Especially when the so called viron is nothing but a fudged WEF/WHO/G-20 fantasy from published research documents that are completely false.
     
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    Ahh, yet you never know. There are plenty of hypochondriacs that would love another jab. Human pin cushions or even voodoo dolls perhaps.:)
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, I've volunteered for other clinical trials in the past (though it's less convenient now since I no longer work at a hospital) so, depending on the specifics of the trial, I don't see why not.

    There is obviously some level of personal risk (that's why they need trials in the first place after all) but as a general principle, I can accept that as long as there is likely to be a greater social benefit.
     
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    Got to say, I should have posted this earlier.


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    Really? Not having any idea what it may do to you. Wouldn't be better off playing on the freeway if you wanted an expected experience?
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, because nobody would gain anything from me playing on the freeway (indeed, that would put other people at risk as well - interesting that you inadvertently overlooked that aspect :cool: ).

    I do have some idea what a COVID vaccine would do in general (based on a combination of public information and personal knowledge) and clinical trials inform participants what they will (or might, if there are placebo groups) be given and the potential risks. Also, in this case it's something that could be personally beneficial to me by giving me additional protection from COVID and it'd probably be the safest way to get it since I'd be under very close clinical observation, specifically looking for any kind of side-effects or problems.

    I can totally understand you (and others) not wishing to do the same, especially if you believe the ideas of COVID vaccines in general being much more dangerous than they're officially presented as being, and I'd in no way expect you to do so. Plenty of other people clearly are willing though. After all, they found people willing to enlist in the trails required for the initial emergency authorisations, which would be arguably even more of an unknown.
     
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    No, they wouldn't. But they'd see what's coming.

    You're braver than me. Willing to have a cocktail of god knows what into your body and does go knows what.
     
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    Wait a moment.
    Which vaccines?

    RNA messengers? I'm available to experiment them.
    They are synthetic and they are produced after virtual simulations which involved super computers simulating what happens in the cells.

    Traditional vaccines? [Like Astrazeneca].
    I'm more doubtful. Not because of danger, but because they could be useless: Covid virus "family" is mutating really quickly, so it's better to focus the attention on the genetic core of the "family".
     
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    Thanks. About Australia, the local vaccines was a disaster: they renounced to produce it [it caused very uncomfortable collateral effects].
    Now, as for I can see from phase III, the Covax plan involves many vaccines [in my opinion too many ... maybe you know this or not, but I'm an operator of Italian Civil Protection who has spent the last years facing Covid in Italy].
    Among those vaccines, on the base of the data I've collected, but they could be incomplete, I trust Pfizer, Novavax, Moderna and J&J.

    So, before of participating to an experimentation, I would ask which vaccine they are going to use ...
     
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    You're welcome. The section that I posted, which is within the link, tells you the details. The first is where you'll find the vaccines, "clinical trials globally"
     
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    This is a serious matter, I tend to be as rational as possible when I discuss aspects of SARS-Cov2 pandemic.
    I personally think that facing a global threat like this, we should forget our political orientations.

    But it's a personal thought and this is a political forum, so ...
     
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    Everyone has the right to an opinion. Be it based on facts or their own observations and or both.
     
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    You seem to be brushing over the serious question of benefit (or risk) to other people. Your position on this question seems to be based entirely on personal self-interest. Now you're perfectly entitled to think that way but you should at least admit the fact (if only to yourself). You should also recognise that if everybody had taken the same position, we wouldn't have any medication at all.

    Sure. When was the last time you ordered take-out? :cool:
     
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    I still wonder why so many still call them vaccines. :roll:
     
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    Really, I prefer to call any injections associated with covid is a poison.
     
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    It is a serious matter, but we don't see it from the same perspective.
     
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    I am about awareness. Yes, I am biased on this subject, I won't deny it. I know enough to know what the whole rock show of the scamdemic is. A fear-based agenda to get as many people jabbed with immune destroying cocktail.

    When your food is fried, baked and grilled, it tends to kill any nasties. A risk? 1/1000 chance perhaps. Over getting a mystery shot
    not knowing what's in it and what it'll do to you. Hmm, a bit of food poisoning or have my immune system gets shut down. I'll wreath in pain and gush fluids out of in and out orifices for a few days then get a shot that destroys my immune system for good, with no chance of recovery.
     
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    I didn't say you were biased, I said you were selfish.

    Of course, you've shifted the whole thing since you've suddenly shifted from having no idea what would be in the vaccines or what they do to knowing exactly what is in them and what they do. So yes, you're biased and I'm sorry I wasn't able to help satisfy your need for validation.
     
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    This is not a problem. We are not going to vote to elect a President [btw, I would vote for Trump ...], we are discussing a health matter, so a matter which should be faced from a scientific perspective.

    Anyway, science knows different perspectives. It's the synthesis to give us an answer and an operative strategy.
     
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    Validation? I need no validation from you. The proof is in the pudding. Look at all the covid jab deaths and injuries. As I stated before, I am about awareness.
     
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    That we are.
     
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    Sure.

    So, which is your opinion about vaccines?
    Do you think they can help or do you think they are scientific experiments with different purposes?
     
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    Back in the day, there were and are some helpful and beneficial vaccines. These ones for covid, don't fit in that category. These covid shots have one purpose. Destroy the recipient's immune system. How do I know this? Every member of my wife's family has had at least two shots. They have all had covid. Now a niece has covid a 3rd time. To me, this suggests a weakened immune system. Me and my family have not been vaccinated and we're all fine. No covid BS ever.
     
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