Cummings; classified emails found on personal accounts of Rice & Powell OOPS!

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Well since you admit that the only proper judge of whether or not she has done something wrong is the FBI investigation it is possible if not probable that the sheep is you who are making judgements as to her guilt with absolutly no evidence.
     
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    I haven't seen anything to suggest that Rice or Powell are being investigated, but, according to Judge Napolitano, the investigation into Hillary now has REAL traction. They've got enough on Hillary's aides to put them in prison, so now they're negotiating "deals" with them for lesser punishment in return for testimony: http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/11/napolitano-the-fbi-now-has-leverage-with-hillary-aides-video/

    This tactic is not new, and frankly, I don't really like it. I'd much rather that the FBI just come right out and go for an indictment of Hillary and anybody else who flagrantly violated classified information protocols and laws. But, using the "end justifies the means" philosophy, ANYTHING that gets this stupid, reckless, irresponsible old ex-hippie chick out of consideration to be the President of the United States is something that should be undertaken for the greater good of the country. The only people who want to see her elected are: 1. Our adversaries 2. Blithering idiot hyperliberals whose mentality is an inch deep and a mile wide. The latter will get over her indictment when they realize that ANY Democrat nominee can make sure they go on getting all their welfare and free stuff from the government.... Hello, Joe?
     
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    The FBI is investigating if her wrong doing was criminal, we already know it was wrong doing and she should never again handle classified information, control such information or have anything to do with our national security.
     
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    Desperately rehashing the same rhetoric about classified, marked unclassified, that may not have been read, has been explained in reasonable, logical fashion to you on this forum, many times. Your obsession isn't going to help you this time, just like it didn't help you the last time.
     
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    That'll be good! Do these folks get to keep their free stuff too; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb0UNRl-paQ
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Well actually since nobody has been able to post one single piece of evidence that any actually classified info was released or that any national interests were damaged by the imaginary release of retroactively classified info it would appear to be a stretch that any wrong doing Occured. But maybe you can save all the other fruit loopy critics by posting some actual evidence since nobody has been able to do it so far.

    And remember, actual evidence of any info classified at the time is the criteria, five or six years later classified by some anonomous factotum doesn't count.
     
  7. MMC

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    That BS.....the IG stated that 2 of the emails the info was Classified at the time they were sent. The IC confirms that. Which then that was leaked to the MS media and they jumped on it.

    Not even the State Dept denies that the material was classified when it was sent. Nor are they now denying that Hillary Originated Classified Emails.

    So that ends the BS about evidence.

    Now it is known fact that Hillary had Classified emails that were sent or received thru her private server. Also now news is coming out on her Aides that were also sending Classified info thru their private emails.

    So now the Hillary supporters and defenders can catch up with the new material out rather than running back to the old news about the issue for their denial efforts.
     
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    Yow. Geraldo really lit into Fox and their crew about the emails and Benghazi yesterday.

    Fox's Geraldo Rivera Slams Network's Disingenuous Coverage Of Benghazi, Clinton Emails

    http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/02/12/foxs-geraldo-rivera-slams-networks-disingenuous/208559

    (and stuff it about the source - it is simply the video of the show and the transcript of what was said. )

    "DOOCY: How do they not ask about that?

    GERALDO RIVERA: It is the most overrated scandal we have ever covered. The emails. There is no crime there. There is absolutely no crime there. You get your --

    DOOCY: Geraldo, setting up the server was a crime.

    RIVERA: -- hopes up on this e-mail scandalette --
    ...and by getting your hopes up that they'll be an indictment, you lose sight of the real issue.

    [...]
    RIVERA: My bottom line is this. By putting all of political capital in the email investigation, the risk is simple. The email investigation will go nowhere.

    There will be no indictments and then people who have spent so much time, invested so much energy and so much vitriol in the email scandal will then say, 'oh, I guess we were wrong. I guess we were wrong.'

    [...]

    RIVERA: I want to release -- I want to finish my statement. My statement is this. This administration was slandered by the coverage of the Benghazi event. We --

    PIRRO: No. Four Americans were killed.

    RIVERA: We promulgated to the world the false notion that the Obama administration had the military capacity to save those people.
    ...We promulgated that, broadcasts day after day, day after day, we have never apologized for that.
    ...We have never -- apologized for slandering good people that you may politically disagree with by saying they could have saved people --

    PIRRO: They could have.

    RIVERA: -- We basically accused them of murdering our own people.

    PIRRO: There was a stand down in Tripoli.

    RIVERA: Stand down baloney. We still have not apologized for it, still are not apologizing for it. Concentrate on the real issues."

    =====================
    That was precious. Fox News ever - ever ! admitting they were wrong or apologizing.

    ha ha ha
     
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    These two “top secret/SCI level” information that were later classified as TS days after *after* they were sent and the IC backed off of?

    "The Office of the Director of National Intelligence concluded that report was not classified until several day after the emails were sent and received."

    Source: Key Clinton emails did not contain highly classified secrets

    The U.S. intelligence community has retreated from claims that two emails in Hillary Clinton’s private account contained top-secret information, a source familiar with the situation told POLITICO.


    After a review, intelligence agencies concluded that the two emails did not include highly classified intelligence secrets, the source said. Concerns about the emails' classification helped trigger an ongoing FBI inquiry into Clinton's private email setup.



    Intelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III made the claim that two of the emails contained top-secret information; the State Department publicly stated its disagreement and asked Director of National Intelligence James Clapper’s office to referee the dispute. Now, that disagreement has been resolved in State’s favor, said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

    ...


    However, the source said State Department officials had already received instructions from intelligence officials that they need not use the strictest standards for handling the two emails in dispute – meaning that they aren’t highly classified.



    Intelligence officials claimed one email in Clinton’s account was classified because it contained information from a top-secret intelligence community “product” or report, but a further review determined that the report was not issued until several days after the email in question was written, the source said.


    "The initial determination was based on a flawed process
    ," the source said. "There was an intelligence product people thought [one of the emails] was based on, but that actually postdated the email in question."

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/hillary-clinton-email-no-highly-classified-215599
     
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    You should have read Politicos update with that piece back in November. It was there at the bottom. Then there was this that came out in December.


    Report: Intel Review Confirms Clinton Emails Were ‘Top Secret’.....
    December 15, 2015 12:36 pm......


    Two U.S. intelligence agencies have reaffirmed that two emails sent over Hillary Clinton’s private email server were “top secret” at the time, Fox News reported on Tuesday.

    The CIA and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency conducted a review of the two emails after the State Department disputed their classification status. Although one of the emails has since been downgraded to “secret” status, both were considered “top secret” during the time they were transmitted over Clinton’s server, sources told Fox News.

    Clinton supporters previously seized on reports that the intelligence community was backing down from initial assessments that found the emails were highly classified, but the Fox News report indicates that the “top secret” determination has not changed:

    Earlier this month, Politico reported that the intelligence community was retreating from the “top secret” classification, a development that could have helped Clinton’s presidential campaign deflect allegations about mishandling classified material. Fox News can confirm it is true the handling of one email has changed since it was drafted and sent, but this change has no bearing on the “top secret” nature of the emails when first received on Clinton’s server. And this is what matters to the FBI probe.....snip~

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/report-intel-review-confirms-clinton-emails-were-top-secret/


    Then there is the new part about 22 new emails with Classified Material so sensitive, that they can't be released even under redaction.
     
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    I know.....you will have to do better. :wink:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Keep at it tiger - you big Politicoo Opie-rater!

    This time we'll get er. THIS TIME!

    For sure/

    Hi ho silver!
     
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    Try addressing what was posted next time instead of your inane remarks. And no you misrepresentations do not mitigate the fact she engaged in wrong doing.
     
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    That is for the criminal part, we already know she enegaed in wrong doing, purposeful wrong doing and therefore should never again handle classified information.
     
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    Well if you actually have the evidence how come you can't post it? Funny that nobody can even though they seem to claim it endlessly.
     
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    Because its top secret
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Well if the "we" is the fruit loop Conservative fringe of the uneducated wing of the Republican cabal then you are certainly correct. Of course some fools still demand actual evidence. But, what do they know.
     
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    Read the links up above, especially post 462.....where Politico got set back on the Right track after they tried to deflect with the issue.

    Also, what part about the State Dept saying that these new 22 emails can't be released even with redaction due to Classified material in them, can't you figure out. Just where is the State Dept confusing you?

    So its a mute point to argue......the fact that Hillary was caught with Classified emails that were sent and received from her private server. That part of the investigation is over.

    There is no questioning anymore if there were classified emails or not. The fact of the matter is.....there were and are. Now they have caught her aides doing the same thing as she was. Its why they are all lawyered up. Now including Jake Sullivan.

    Who was always out with his mouth defending Hillary. Now the mope has gone mute. Knowing his ass is on the hot seat.
     
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    No evidence here. But i did go post #462 which said and I quote.


    "The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism.
    All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Not sure what that could possible prove about Hillar's Emails but then you Hillary haters are often somewhat confused.
     
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    Well it appears that the information is now considered possibly retroactively somewhat secret.
     
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    Oh and ABC NEWS, The NY Times, and just about everybody else now has reported about the 22 New Classified emails that can't be released to the public even with redaction.

    Here is post 462. You must have been looking in a different thread as it was above your post.

    Report: Intel Review Confirms Clinton Emails Were ‘Top Secret’.....
    December 15, 2015 12:36 pm......


    Two U.S. intelligence agencies have reaffirmed that two emails sent over Hillary Clinton’s private email server were “top secret” at the time, Fox News reported on Tuesday.

    The CIA and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency conducted a review of the two emails after the State Department disputed their classification status. Although one of the emails has since been downgraded to “secret” status, both were considered “top secret” during the time they were transmitted over Clinton’s server, sources told Fox News.

    Clinton supporters previously seized on reports that the intelligence community was backing down from initial assessments that found the emails were highly classified, but the Fox News report indicates that the “top secret” determination has not changed:

    Earlier this month, Politico reported that the intelligence community was retreating from the “top secret” classification, a development that could have helped Clinton’s presidential campaign deflect allegations about mishandling classified material. Fox News can confirm it is true the handling of one email has changed since it was drafted and sent, but this change has no bearing on the “top secret” nature of the emails when first received on Clinton’s server. And this is what matters to the FBI probe.....snip~
     
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    Post #462

    Happily, it still applies.
     
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    Does it.....I see that I misread the numbers. Oh my.....that really will cause you Hillary Champions to be more confused than you-ins already are. My Bad. [​IMG]

    Although what you applied to.....was your mistake with that Politico link despite its update. So I don't mind you laughing at that.
     
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    Here is the operative part of the link in your post #161.

    The U.S. intelligence community has retreated from claims that two emails in Hillary Clinton’s private account contained top-secret information, a source familiar with the situation told POLITICO.
    After a review, intelligence agencies concluded that the two emails did not include highly classified intelligence secrets, the source said. Concerns about the emails' classification helped trigger an ongoing FBI inquiry into Clinton's private email setup.


    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/...ail-no-highly-classified-215599#ixzz40AGlfv7V

    To summarize. Nothing even important enough in the retroactively classisied Emails to cause any issues with national security.
     

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