Cutting Back on Carbon

Sea level was rising during Napoleon's time. The rose at the same rate pre-CO2 spike. Recently it has been slowing. I would like to see how CO2 is responsible for all the previous sea level rise before the CO2 spike.

 

I do. You've posted nothing. As usual.

 

do you think there's no reaction to dumping billions of metric tones of carbon into the atmosphere every year?

have your eyes checked

 

I did, they are perfect. That's how Im able to see your Rodney Dangerfield type one liner posts as well as the fact you turned your two rep bars off after over 17k posts. Apparently the forum agrees with me. Statistically speaking of course.

 

So you think that was happening during Napoleon's time? Really? Evidently you don't even understand when CO2 was allegedly becoming the problem.

 

notice how i didn't say anything about napoleon

that's funny coming from the guy that thought there were more people in chicago than the rest of the state

 

Of course, nothing that happened earlier than 60 years ago would be important if you are trying to push an agenda.

 

my agenda is telling the truth, you should try it

 

Your agenda is supporting the CAGW meme. If it were the truth, you would know the answers to some of my questions or even have some modicum of interest in what other hypothesis are.

 

what is that?

i answered your questions

 

What you support. See, you don't even understand the terms being used.

 

you don't know what you're talking about

notice who's not answering questions here

 

Notice who doesn't even understand the terms being used in the debate.

 

the point is that you made a false allegation, again

 

Then quit defending it.

 

defending what?

 

I've suggested this to many people and now to you; place your vehicle in the garage, roll down the windows and find a good radio station, close the garage door, start your vehicle, and just let it idle while you sit and enjoy music...after about 30 minutes, please get back to us about how you feel?

Assuming you can be honest, now multiply your experience by trillions in order to understand what is created every single day on Earth by humans.

Without an ounce of scientific data, without any bias about global climate change potential, based on the above experiment, can you honestly believe what humans are doing is a non-problem?

We don't need to be 'regulating ourselves into oblivion'? Each of us can do something to reduce our carbon foot print without 'regulating ourselves into oblivion'. Every business and government can reduce their carbon foot print without 'regulating ourselves into oblivion'.

 

Sorry, I will NOT stop driving to appease environmentalists until they provide ME an alternative. I will happily buy an electric car once its reasonable to do so. Until then, I have NO OPTIONS. I drive a car that gets over 30MPG but my wife drives our kids around in a minivan that averages the low 20s. Sorry. You can not get around in suburbia using &$%*#(# trains or buses in Florida. I'm NOT poor, nor do I care to live poor. Sorry. I recycle everything I'm required to and am VERY happy to do it. I'd put solar panels on my roof if it was actually cost effective, but its not. Its a ripoff and a hurricane will certainly cause havok, since nobody with a brain can trust some startup claiming they'll be there to fix the panels, until all their customers are asking at the same time and its easier for them to go out of business then pay for it all. THAT's REALITY buddy.

I'll take it serious when people who are actually in a financial position to do something, namely just about every &$&# wit in office right now, telling the rest of us to conserve while they live in homes that pump out more energy in a year than my home will in 20. Miss. Pelosi doesn't need a private plane to fly her wrinkled a$$ anywhere. She can take business class with the rest of them. Hypocrites, all of them.

Each one of us shouldn't have to do a damn thing until the people telling US to change do so themselves. Lead by example. Until then, &$(*#(# them and *$(#)#! anyone who thinks like them.

Businesses are already reducing their carbon footprints, but is it really doing anything? We seriously don't have a clue. Where I work we are. But its not technically saving us any money. We have LEED certified buildings. I know all about all this "stuff". I'm knee deep in it.

I never said it wasn't a problem. The question is PROVE the problem and exactly how much is caused by man. Nobody knows. All people can do is guess or predict and so far their predictions have been crap, about as accurate as how many Hurricanes will hit FL each year. A monkey randomly picking numbers from a hat is equally accurate than them, because they don't fracking know. But I should take their word for it? Yeah. Uh huh.

But I'm curious what REALISTIC steps can the average American take to save the earth? I'm willing to listen and report back to our Environmental Dept, which would then influence a whole lot of people. Remember, realistic steps that don't reduce my quality of life or financial situation. Now.....GO!!

And like I said, the no matter what the US does, if the rest of the world, mainly China and India don't catch up, it doesn't matter at all. We're 25% of what? .000005% of an effect on the environment? Who knows. NOBODY really knows.

 

You're like so many...excuses, excuses, excuses? Look above and see how many times you use 'I' in your comments; fossil fuel pollution is not about 'me-me-me', it is about doing what is best for the nation and the world. You're obviously and extremely biased which indicates a closed-mind and closed-minds cannot solve problems...they can't even define problems. Thousands of scientists all over the world know a lot so all you need to do is a little reading outside of your heavily biased comfort zone...

 

What have you done? Have you given up your car, air conditioner and all electronics that use electricity?

 

It's none of your business what I do...your only business is what you do. Either you do right or wrong by the nation and the world...this is your choice. Reducing carbon emissions does not need to be an all-or-nothing scenario? If you would like to share what you have done to reduce your carbon footprint over the past 10 years then please do so...but what you do or think should have nothing to do with what I or others choose to do...

 

Carbon emissions could be cut back a lot if we remove draconian environmental regulations on nuclear generation facilities and opened up more fracking for natural gas. President 'pen and phone' could do that today.

 

??? A "deal to end climate change". Its just amazing what these lovers of government can convince themselves their government can achieve.

 

most people would rather have clean energy

 

There is no such thing.