Dealing with anti-trans bullying

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    ????? Chromosome tests wont determine that
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    No one is speaking of CAIS other than you.
    Strawmen, mischaracterization, irrelevancy AND moving the goal post. These days MOST trans people are non binary or gender fluid. People with CAIS are extremely rare and not necessarily trans. Of all trans, 90% you can tell their sex simply by seeing them.
     
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    Religion is not science.

    This discussion isn't about handedness. Stay on topic.

    Nobody said that abnormalities don't exist. There is no such thing as "transgender people".

    IN PRINCIPLE, there is only male and female. That means that, in a perfect world, in which no genetic errors occurred during the formation of offspring, said offspring would ALWAYS result in being a man or a woman, and this is what actually happens 99.9% of the time.

    0.01% of the time, since this isn't a perfect world, some sort of genetic error will occur, which can result in potentially making it more difficult to determine said offspring's gender. This extremely rare occurrence does NOT change what is true IN PRINCIPLE, which is that humans are born male or female.

    Math errors do not change mathematical truths (e.g. 2+2=4 in a base 10 numbering system). Genetic errors do not change biological truths (e.g. that humans only have two genders - male and female).
     
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  4. Maquiscat

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    That would make circumcision even worse since it's mutilating not only another person's body, but that of a baby, unable to understand or give consent.
     
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    A trans with CAIS is likely to be in the 10% that cant be determined by simply viewing them. You can bring the goal post back to where it was.
     
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    Circumcision doesnt alter the normal functioning of the body part and improves hygiene. Sex change surgery destroys the normal functioning of the body part and fosters infections. Really no comparison.
     
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    That would include tattoos, piercings, etc right?
     
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    Not to mention circumcision
     
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    Sorry but its an apt comparison.
     
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    We can even include surgery of any type. Mutilation is mutilation. Whether more harm than good comes out of it is a completely different matter. Further, the ultimate indicator of what good comes out if it lies only with the patient and the doctor(s).
     
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    Fine.

    Do you think cutting off ones breasts isn't a sign of mental illness?
     
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    You could just answer the question, please.

    Do you think cutting off ones breasts is a sign of mentatal illness or not

    Tattoos and piercings are additions and not subtractions.
     
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    There is a big big difference between a surgery of medical necessity and one for reasons of vanity or delusions
     
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    No its not.
     
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    Like circumcision.
     
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    String together a few words and make an argument as to why, if you can.
     
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    ?????? A trans literally needs a diagnosis of the mental disorder, the "mental illness" of gender dysphoria in order to get a medical Dr to perform sex change surgeries.
     
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    I'm not dodging your question, but showing you the fallacy of your logic. Is killing another human a sign of mental illness?

    Or if you prefer, would.you also say that partly cutting off one's breasts is a sign of mental illness?
     
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    Circumcision is a subtraction. Also wouldn't piercing be a subtraction since there is now a hole there, where it was whole (no puns or word play intended), especially if gaging is involved? But going the other way, a Prince Albert is not a sign of mental illness since it's an addition not a subtraction?
     
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    Circumcision is not a surgery of medical necessity, therefore it must be vanity or delusion by your argument. Same point stands for plastic surgery. And for that matter we could include most cases.of the use of braces (oral). They most common are not needed medically and are only for vanity.
     
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    You have yet to answer the question
    I'd call that dodging.
     
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    Your question is flawed. Answer mine and I will show you the flaw.

    Also the second question is asked for further clarification of the basis of your question.
     
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    OK. I am just going to assume you know trans are nuts but afraid to say so.
     
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    There is that saying about assume, but it's only you in this case.

    Let's start simple and go with the question that is asked as a further clarification of your question; would you also say that partly cutting off one's breasts is a sign of mental illness?
     
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    And now you're becoming abusive, a standard ploy of the left.
     

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