Decriminalising Abortion

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  1. Josephwalker

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    How exactly will it do that?
     
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    How about partial birth abortion? Is that decriminalized in your country too?
     
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    Women will start to hide the fact they're pregnant and not seek pre-natal care. Women may use less than safe methods for abortion and harm or even kill themselves trying.....

    All the things that women had to suffer before abortion was legal....is that what you hope for?
     
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    What's harsher is taking away a human's right to their own body...making them nothing more than slaves....
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Women will start to hide the fact they're pregnant and not seek pre-natal care. Women may use less than safe methods for abortion and harm or even kill themselves trying.....

    All the things that women had to suffer before abortion was legal....is that what you hope for?




    :) I'm used to your MO...can't address facts so it's the other posters fault and off you go....:) Byeeee:nana:



    BTW, there is NOTHING more "unpleasant" than losing the right to your own body...
     
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    What part of abortion is illegal is difficult to understand?

    But yes the government is talking of allowing lat term abortions because they, like others who have actually studied the topic know that late term abortions are nearly always done to either save the life of the mother or to end a pregnancy gone terribly wrong, where the foetus is so malformed it will never survive
     
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    First you said abortion was decriminalized in your country and now you say it's illegal? Make up your mind?
     
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    No I said we were about to do it. Legislation has not yet passed
     
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    Well, glad to see you do not want it criminalised
     
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    Not early abortion but at some point in the pregnancy it isn't abortion and is murder. We can argue over when that point is but there's no way to say that point doesn't exist. In this country we are half way there and someone who murders a pregnant women is charged with double homacide.
     
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    Oh Gawd, you don't know about the UVVA after all this talk on abortion.
    The UVVA makes it possible to bring harder charges against someone who kills a woman and/or her fetus.

    It does NOT make the fetus a person.

    We have a law.....abortions aren't legal after viability, a compromise......NO one said the point didn't exist except YOU.
     
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    What about those pregnancies gone terribly horribly wrong? Babies without brain tissue babies whose skin peels off with the slightest touch. Babies whose Skeletons have frozen into a shape that will not allow growth or movement or have not formed any connections...... These sad cases are why I stand by the decisions for late terminations.
     
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    I'm fine with that but I would like it to be murder to abort a healthy baby from a healthy mother after the first trimester.
     
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    Did you want women who do that given life sentences or be executed ? There are only two choices, which is it????

    C'mon, step up to the plate and deliver, death or a life sentence ?



    How do you prove a woman had an abortion?
     
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    Same way you prove anything murder, evidence. As for sentencing that's for the judge to decide. Premeditated murder generally gets life in prison.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Did you want women who do that given life sentences or be executed ? There are only two choices, which is it????

    C'mon, step up to the plate and deliver, death or a life sentence ?



    How do you prove a woman had an abortion?






    For murder to be charged you either need a body or a person missing. You have neither in an abortion.

    What "evidence" ? Your say so ? Hilarious!

    How do you even "suspect" an abortion?


    How do you prove it wasn't a miscarriage?


    Even if your little dream came true and women were turned into criminals do you know what many millions of cases would do to our court system?
     
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    Earlier you said healthy women with healthy babies don't have late term abortions, now you say millions do. Pick a story and stick with it.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Did you want women who do that given life sentences or be executed ? There are only two choices, which is it????

    C'mon, step up to the plate and deliver, death or a life sentence ?



    How do you prove a woman had an abortion?






    THE QUESTIONS NO ANTI-CHOICER HAS EVER ANSWERED:

    For murder to be charged you either need a body or a person missing. You have neither in an abortion.

    What "evidence" ? Your say so ? Hilarious!

    How do you even "suspect" an abortion?


    How do you prove it wasn't a miscarriage?



    Even if your little dream came true and women were turned into criminals do you know what many millions of cases would do to our court system?





    :roflol: I KNEW those questions would stump you and you'd segue off onto something else.

    We were discussing abortions, not late term abortions which are over 23 weeks NOT 12 weeks....


    Now, try to answer the questions if a woman has an abortion after 12 weeks and before 23 weeks....you STILL won't be able to :)
     
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    I am for individual choice, but holding up a shop vac and icecream scooper like it is some kind of trophy to parade around speaks for itself............Uterus queens are what they are.
     
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    Your initial response was to my post on anything after first trimester being murder IMO. Now you move the goal post. Game over you lose.


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    I'm fine with that but I would like it to be murder to abort a healthy baby from a healthy mother after the first trimester
     
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    Abortion is cold blooded murder. Period.

    Anyone who denies that is a science-denier.
     
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    Oh, quit making EXCUSES for not being able to answer those INCONVENIENT questions
    (I thought Anti-Choicers liked inconvenience)
    FoxHastings said:
    Did you want women who do that given life sentences or be executed ? There are only two choices, which is it????

    C'mon, step up to the plate and deliver, death or a life sentence ?



    How do you prove a woman had an abortion?






    THE QUESTIONS NO ANTI-CHOICER HAS EVER ANSWERED:

    For murder to be charged you either need a body or a person missing. You have neither in an abortion.

    What "evidence" ? Your say so ? Hilarious!

    How do you even "suspect" an abortion?


    How do you prove it wasn't a miscarriage?


    Even if your little dream came true and women were turned into criminals do you know what many millions of cases would do to our court system?







    :roflol: I KNEW those questions would stump you and you'd segue off onto something else.

    We were discussing abortions, not late term abortions which are over 23 weeks NOT 12 weeks....


    Now, try to answer the questions if a woman has an abortion after 12 weeks and before 23 weeks....you STILL won't be able to :)
     
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    Hey, all ya gotta do is prove it...….then take it to the Supreme Court...wait, why hasn't anyone done that ?? …….:) :)
     

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