Democrats continue fight against voter ID laws

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  1. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Great . SO ANYONE can PRETEND TO BE SOMEONE ELSE, by merely raiding their mailbox?

    Positive Voter ID solves that problem....
     
  2. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    What if I'm a contract worker?
     
  3. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    Yes. I'm sure that would go over well if all your bills and leases are addressed to a different address then where your food stamps are going. They do a full background check on you. It's going to raise flags if you try to send to an address they aren't aware of on any other documents. Besides couldn't they also steal your ID from your mailbox?
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would require your BUSINESS TAX ID NUMBER, AND a photo ID, so that I don't get stuck with taxes that you don't pay, for my own paperwork.
     
  5. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    I don't own a business.
     
  6. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A quick check of food stamp rules:

    http://www.211ct.org/informationlibrary/documents/food stamps cw.asp

    Every state I checked REQUIRES ID to get them.

    In addition, someone stealing your photo ID is NOT LIKELY to be your twin...duh.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    Well when someone says "I didn't need an ID to get a job" they are normally speaking of being hired as an employee.

    I'm not going to play hit the gopher with you.

    That being said to be employed as employee, yes you DO have to provide ID, by law. So having to provide an ID is not discriminatory.

    If you were being hire as an employee of a company and your employer did not check your ID and fill out a I-9 form they broke the law.
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    He's dancing on the head of a pin. The fact that employers have to ID prospective employees refutes any notion of showing an ID is discriminatory.
     
  9. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you are CONTRACTING your services, as you are trying to float as an example, you most certainly DO "own a business". YOU,Inc.

    Someone is liable for the taxes owed on the money that changes hands, and like anyone with any common sense, I will REQUIRE documentation from you to GUARANTEE the paying of those liabilities...
     
  10. Yosh Shmenge

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    Dishonest leftists want to make it more difficult to buy a package of cigarettes than vote. I guess they know well enough where their voting base comes from...illegal aliens who will vote for the party willing to tear down America to get a hold of power and give them things.

    They (leftists) are scum, pure and simple.
     
  11. TheTaoOfBill

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    I don't think it's required in Michigan if you're just a freelancer. I know in other states you do. I am still responsible to pay taxes. I'm just not officially registered as a business.
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    Who pays your FICA taxes?
     
  13. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    I'm still new so I don't know all the tax names. All I know is I get a W-2 form and fill that out and that's how much I owe. I'm pretty sure this puts more tax responsibility on me verses if my client hired me as an employee.
     
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    if they are paying you under the table they wont ask you for anything really, but if they are hiring you on to their company and have to put you under their insurance and such is when they need valid i.d. and other info.
     
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    As i posted earlier they passed the voter ID bill in Wisconsin this year, at the same time they passed a law that allows for free ID.

    http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/drivers/drivers/apply/idcard.htm

    Any problem with this?
     
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    Nope not at all. Wisconsin made a good move. I understand the need to have security at the polls. I just don't think it's right to have to pay 1 penny to vote.
     
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    As I said, NO ONE is is not mentally deficient is going to pay someone, contrated, or otherwise, without verifying TAX INFO, ESPECIALLY ID.

    Thanks for PROVING OUR POINT, that only in make believe, non-real world hypotheticals, does the Leftninny complaint about voter ID hold any water.

    Here in the ACTUAL WORLD, you cannot (nor can the Sleazocrats) produce a SINGLE, LEGAL VOTER who is being "disenfranchised" , with NO MEANS TO OBTAIN ID, anywhere.
     
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    if your response is sincere I appreciate it. But, the Democrats and other liberals have never made a free ID an issue. I don't think they're too dense to think of it.

    If liberals would quit saying the voter ID laws are Jim Crow laws and instead insisted on free IDs, I would agree with them.
     
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    FICA

    Then either you are faking it or you are to ignorant of taxes and payroll to have an intelligent discussion of the matter.
     
  20. Veni-Vidi-Feces

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    If I am not mistaken the poll they were "intimidating" in front of had nothing to do with voter intimidation, but was in fact to try and intimidate those that the previous election cycle stood out in front of that precinct and told folks the poll was closed, the voting time was over, they needed 3 forms of ID, etc (you know the republican favorites of voter disenfranchisement).
     
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    Personally I have no issues with voter ID laws. I just think they should be grandfathered in. Meaning that if you are voting in the same place you've voted before the ID law took effect you can continue to vote without an ID, but the moment you move to a different precinct you need to get an ID along with your voter registration.

    This should not happen

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    At least it should not happen if Ms. Cooper goes to the same polling place to cast her vote.
     
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    The speaker makes the comment that she had ALL the documents an elderly person aquires in life. Well no she did not have a photo ID.

    My mother who was blind since my childhood had a state issue photo ID. Acquiring one is not an entirely difficult matter. And like with a passport if you are a woman who changed her name upon marriage then you need to present your marriage license. That is what it is for.
     
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    Let's see a link that that was why they were there and that anyone was disfranchised by any such actions. What happened when charges were filed?
     
  24. Veni-Vidi-Feces

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    http://www.usccr.gov/NBPH/USCCR_NBPP_report.pdf

    knock yourself out.
     
  25. Ironball

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    This is the 21st century. Anyone without photo ID in this day and age is intentionally avoiding it.
     
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